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moviefreak81Samurai
Posted: October 24, 20172017-10-24T03:11:12+10:00 2017-10-24T03:11:12+10:00In: Examples

When androids of a wild west theme park start gaining conscience, the scientist behind the show must overcome the senior manager’s intention to shut down the current program.

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    1. moviefreak81 Samurai
      2017-10-24T03:21:10+10:00Added an answer on October 24, 2017 at 3:21 am

      I had to dig a little to decide Dr. Ford is the actual protagonist and not any android, even tho the hook against the 70’s film is that the TV show is told mostly from the perspective of the hosts…

      Let me know what you think…

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    2. Foxtrot25 Uberwriter
      2017-10-24T03:38:10+10:00Added an answer on October 24, 2017 at 3:38 am

      Movie was great with the late Mr. Brenner as the OG Terminator before there was Arnie.

      The tv show, not so much.

      As much as we want the super android to be the focal point of the story, it serves better when ordinary humans are the focal point. We relate to them. It works.

      One of my all-time favorite movie.

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    3. moviefreak81 Samurai
      2017-10-24T07:51:23+10:00Added an answer on October 24, 2017 at 7:51 am

      Indeed.. but in your opinion the empathy the audience feels for Maeve or Dolores is “half baked” compared to ordinary humans?

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    4. dpg Singularity
      2017-10-24T12:28:28+10:00Added an answer on October 24, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      What matters is?the hook in the concept: an amusement park where adults indulge their violent and sexual fantasies with actors who are robots.? No harm, no fouls… until.

      It’s a reboot of Michael Crichton’s movie.? Which means the concept was “pre-sold”.? And it was developed by industry insiders — not outsiders with no agent, no contacts, no established record.? Ergo, no logline was necessary.

      If it was an original concept, the creation of a total outsider, then, yes, it would require a logline for a script for the pilot episode.? But as I haven’t seen the 1st season (yet), I can’t expatiate on how the pilot episode rebooted version 2.0 of the story concept.

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    5. moviefreak81 Samurai
      2017-10-24T21:13:25+10:00Added an answer on October 24, 2017 at 9:13 pm

      Yes, as usual you are right, dpg. I guess I’ve read these days that Robert Kirkman the Walking Dead’s creator actually lied to Image comics about the hook in the comics (he said the zombies were caused by aliens), and since he was already a stablished author and the comics were solding well no fuss were made about it. Yes, a lot of movies were not sold on the logline, but for us mortals, is always a fun exercise to reverse-engineer as if the show/movie was going to be sold by an up and coming author 😀

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    6. Foxtrot25 Uberwriter
      2017-10-24T21:18:58+10:00Added an answer on October 24, 2017 at 9:18 pm

      The producers of TWD claim they were lucky even with the established comic.

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    7. dpg Singularity
      2017-10-26T01:17:08+10:00Added an answer on October 26, 2017 at 1:17 am

      >>> always a fun exercise to reverse-engineer as if the show/movie was going to be sold by an up and coming author

      True.? And it can be a useful exercise for honing one’s skill in writing loglines.? It certainly has been for me.? It’s an exercise I’ve performed on almost 800 movies to date.?

      [I started writing loglines for movies to build an adequate sample size in order to prove or disprove by hard statistics the intuitive rule of thumb that the ideal maximum word length was 25 words.? I proved to my satisfaction that on average (mean and median), the 25 maximum word length is valid. And then I kept writing loglines for movies to? hone my knowledge and skills.]

      But I have to be aware not to compare?apples to oranges.? ?That just because a movie got made by a Hollywood insider in spite of a weak hook and insipid plot line does not give me the license to do the same with my own scripts.

      The frustrating truth is that movies get made all the time with weak hooks and insipid plot lines.

      All the [expletive deleted] time.

      And when I look at the curriculum vitae of the writers for such lousy films, in almost every case they got made by Insiders, someone with an agent, with connections — not by a complete Outsider.? They got made because of connections, because of who the screenwriter knew, not solely on the merits of the concept, the script.

      ?The hard reality is that Outsiders face higher hurdles to clear in getting their scripts read then Insiders.? They need loglines with effective hooks and clear plots.?

      Just saying.

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    8. Billy14 Samurai
      2017-10-29T01:03:36+10:00Added an answer on October 29, 2017 at 1:03 am

      DPG I LOVE YOU!!!

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