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moviefreak81Samurai
Posted: October 29, 20172017-10-29T23:06:36+10:00 2017-10-29T23:06:36+10:00In: Examples

After having her father killed, a farm girl must endure a journey with a tough US marshall to get her revenge.

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      dpg Singularity
      2017-10-30T05:36:07+10:00Added an answer on October 30, 2017 at 5:36 am

      My version:

      A stubborn, revengeful farm girl hires a tough, drunken U.S. Marshal to track down her father’s murderer in Indian territory.
      (19 words)

      I don’t see the need to lead off with an explicit inciting incident.? It’s implicit in that the characterization of who she’s hunting down: her father’s murderer.? (And to make explicit what is clearly implicit lengthens the logline.)

      “Stubborn, revengeful”? is the character flaw that leads her to getting her man — but losing her arm.? (The? 1969 version starring John Way goes for a happy ending for the protagonist.? The Coen Brothers remake is faithful to the book.? How the Coen Brothers foreshadow the consequences of her flaw in the 1st Act and pay it off in the 3rd Act? is well worth studying.)

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      moviefreak81 Samurai
      2017-10-30T06:43:27+10:00Added an answer on October 30, 2017 at 6:43 am

      Thanks dpg, learning a lot with your inputs. Just a question here, since you are a fan of slim loglines… why do you think it is necessary 3 adjectives for the protagonist? If I had to cut one, perhaps I’d pick “revengeful”. I’d assume she is since she was after her father’s murderer?

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      dpg Singularity
      2017-10-30T07:50:25+10:00Added an answer on October 30, 2017 at 7:50 am

      Good question.? A single adjective is preferable for the sake of brevity.? My 1st inclination was to describe her as merely stubborn. That is certainly her defining characteristic and in most situations stubbornness is a virtue.? Which would be good enough for the logline for the 1969 version.

      Long answer:

      But the 2010 Coen brothers version has a mixed out come for the protagonist, Mattie Ross, and so I am inclined to think the logline should suggest a character flaw that leads to that mixed outcome.

      I am true believer in? the ancient Greek concept of hubris, a? notion that infused and? determined the outcome of (most) Greek tragedies.? Simply stated, hubris is the dramatic “sin”? of excess, of a life , situation or value system that is out of balance.? (In contrast to the Greek ideal of?sophrosyn?,? moderation, restraint.)? The Greeks believed that any virtue carried too far becomes a vice.? It becomes the problem, not the solution.

      So in that regard, I would say that Mattie suffers from the an hubris of inflexible stubbornness.? Initially, it’s a virtue in enlisting the services of the U.S. Marshal.? ?But, she doesn’t know when to let up, to let go, to adapt her plan? to the goals of her rival, the Texas Ranger.? She wants the murderer brought to justice her way. Period.? And, so her virtue becomes a vice, a problem that leads to the mixed denouement.

      As I watched that ending to the 2nd movie, I imagined the great Greek tragedian, Sophocles (who wrote Oedipus Rex), nodding his head and?whispering (in ancient Greek), “Yeah, the Coen brothers got it right. That’s true dramatic justice.”

      But Hollywood movie makers aren’t big on that kind of dramatic justice.? But if you’re the Coen brothers, you can get away with that kind of denouement.

      Short answer:

      Stubborn is good enough.? But then how to describe the Marshal?? He’s a mixed-bag character.? What makes him such an interesting character is not that he’s tough (his defining characteristic), but that he’s also a drunk.? So if I have the luxury to describe him as “tough, drunken” why not elaborate with one more word for her?

      So I did.

      fwiw

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      moviefreak81 Samurai
      2017-10-30T08:40:20+10:00Added an answer on October 30, 2017 at 8:40 am

      thanks for both long and short version LOL
      I was familiar with the “Meden Agan” (nothing in excess) from the greeks but not the word “sophrosyn?”.

      Good stuff..? for the logline I think it’s pretty good with “stubborn” and “tough, drunken”.

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      Foxtrot25 Uberwriter
      2017-10-30T22:32:16+10:00Added an answer on October 30, 2017 at 10:32 pm

      I think simpler is sweeter with this one:

      A teenage farm girl hires a drunk Marshal to track down her father’s murderer in dangerous Indian territory.

      It flows better and reads leaner.

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      dpg Singularity
      2017-10-30T22:47:32+10:00Added an answer on October 30, 2017 at 10:47 pm

      Foxtrot25:

      Your take does flow better and is leaner at 18 words.? Although I’m? inclined to include an adjective to define the girl.? Maybe tenacious.? To signal that she’s the protagonist — not the Marshal she hires.? She doesn’t remain down on the farm, plowing fields, herding the cattle while the Marshal undertakes all the jeopardy of venturing into dangerous territory.

      Perhaps your version is good enough for a film with a story already has a? pre-sold story line in the form of a best-selling book.? But is it good enough for a script developed ex nihilo by an unknown, unproven, unconnected writer?? That’s the question on my mind every time I evaluate loglines for scripts already made into movies.

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