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PatriciaApplebyPenpusher
Posted: June 12, 20172017-06-12T18:43:06+10:00 2017-06-12T18:43:06+10:00In: SciFi

When the Abyss Men – the third generation of subatlantic colonists – return to the surface, starting a war with the native tribes, a reckless young woman from one of the most violent tribes is ready to do whatever it takes to keep her little sister safe – both from the Abyss Men and her own tribe.

When the Abyss Men – the third generation of subatlantic colonists – return to the surface, starting a war with the native tribes, a reckless young woman from one of the most violent tribes is ready to do whatever it takes to keep her little sister safe – both from the Abyss Men and her own tribe.
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    1. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2017-06-12T21:30:40+10:00Added an answer on June 12, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      “When the Abyss Men ? the third generation of subatlantic colonists ? return to the surface, starting a war with the native tribes, a reckless young woman from one of the most violent tribes is ready to do whatever it takes to keep her little sister safe ? both from the Abyss Men and her own tribe.” (57 words)

      When is this story set? The logline suffers from including too much background and not enough specific description of the main character. She isn’t even mentioned until about halfway through the logline.

      “When the Abyss Men ? the third generation of subatlantic colonists ? return to the surface, starting a war with the native tribes,” can be turned into a specific event. Do they bomb a building? Also, don’t include the names of groups or people unless they are something apart of a pre-existing franchise or are a historical figure.

      ” a reckless young woman from one of the most violent tribes is ready to do whatever it takes to keep her little sister safe”
      This may sound like it is descriptive but it is quite vague. I’m guessing she fights. Does she have to learn to fight? Does she have special skills or powers? Does she have a unique weapon? What does keeping her little sister safe mean, in a definitive, specific, and visual way on the screen? Does she have to escort her sister to her parents? It needs to be more specific.
      On a positive note, this story’s premise has me very interested. It has a cool hook.

      Here’s an example, with me using elements from your logline:?When a subatlantic colony attacks her surface tribe, a reckless women must fight off soldiers from both sides to escort her sister to her uncle’s fortress?in the north.?(29 words)

      While this may not be your story, but I tried to include all of my suggestions in my example, but mostly I was trying to cut the word count down . Though I have another, rather than describing the main character as a “reckless young woman” describe her occupation, or a set of skills which will aid her in the story.
      Good luck with this story and I hope this helps.

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    2. dpg Singularity
      2017-06-12T23:40:46+10:00Added an answer on June 12, 2017 at 11:40 pm

      Wow. ?An awful lot of backstory just to set up the main action.

      Maybe transmorgify the backstory into an origin story. ?IOW: ?think franchise. ?Focus on a script (and logline) for how this future world came to be.

      fwiw

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    3. dpg Singularity
      2017-06-13T02:08:51+10:00Added an answer on June 13, 2017 at 2:08 am

      Have you read H.G. Wells “The Time Machine”? ?A sci-fi classic. ?He ?elegantly ?and efficiently establishes the back story of how homo sapiens split into 2 species, the underworld species, the Morlocks and the surface world species, the Eloi. And he has a thematic purpose in splitting the purpose.

      What’s te thematic purpose in the split in your story? ?What’s the ?(subtext) conflict behind the (text) conflict? Or is it conflict just for the sake of conflict?

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    4. Dkpough1 Uberwriter
      2017-06-13T02:21:24+10:00Added an answer on June 13, 2017 at 2:21 am

      Patricia,
      First off, I come to this site to help others develop their loglines, and in doing so I believe I have a much better grasp on stories and how to write loglines. So I recommend reviewing other people’s loglines, studying them and trying to identify what works and what doesn’t. Try going to the Examples tab and looking through loglines of released films and tv shows, maybe even read the scripts or watch them and decide for yourself if the logline fits. I for one haven’t posted many loglines, but any feedback on my latest one is welcome.

      Anyway, as DPG said that is quite a bit of background. And it’s obvious that you’ve spent a great deal of time on it. But film is a visual medium, so if you choose to keep your story the direction it’s going, then don’t tell the audience that background. Just show it, give little glimpses. Only give a few lines of dialogue to explain some things. That brings to mind an excellent film: Children of Men. It doesn’t just tell the audience everything, the world feels lived in and has a history that the audience slowly fills in themselves. There’s an excellent Nerdwriter video about it. (even though Children of Men doesn’t have nearly that much background and history to it.)
      As for the logline, in short, what is her goal? Ask yourself, at the end of the climax, what has she achieved or failed at? And how does she go about pursuing that goal? Is the goal to stop the war, protect her sister? Focus the logline, and the script, on one goal.
      I hope this helps.

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    5. dpg Singularity
      2017-06-13T09:11:20+10:00Added an answer on June 13, 2017 at 9:11 am

      One challenge with loglining ?SciFi stories is that they are about unfamiliar worlds. ?Since the brevity requirement precludes explaining that world, it is usually better to describe the story in familiar terminology. ?Introducing unfamiliar terms in a logline is usually a stumbling block.

      So while subterranean is a familiar term, “subatlantic” is not. ?Now, ?I can guess “subatlantic” is akin to subterranean, but I shouldn’t have to guess. ?The logline is a promotional tool, to get movie makers to read the script. ?It should entice — not puzzle.

      fwiw

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