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  1. Posted: March 15, 2020In: Thriller

    The scorned stepchild of a serial killer is pushed to the limit when his stepfather turns on the family and neighbors for what he perceives as their roles in the death of his biological son.

    Trix Samurai
    Added an answer on March 16, 2020 at 7:51 pm

    Hi OlDustyDog, I 'think' I love your premise... the reason I say think, is because I'm not exactly sure what your story is, but I know what I'd like it to be!!! ?So, as the others have pointed out, it's not clear, which leaves me projecting my own twisted desires to watch a film about a stepchild whRead more

    Hi OlDustyDog,

    I ‘think’ I love your premise… the reason I say think, is because I’m not exactly sure what your story is, but I know what I’d like it to be!!! ?So, as the others have pointed out, it’s not clear, which leaves me projecting my own twisted desires to watch a film about a stepchild who is being taught how to be a serial killer by his stepdad! LOL.

    I honestly think Ninann22 nailed a potential premise with “A scorned child must stop his vengeful stepfather from killing his family” and would definitely recommend using that as a starting point for building your story around.

    My thoughts are:

    • I guess the MC is the stepchild… but I wouldn’t be surprised if some people think the MC could be the stepdad. ?I think that may be the way you’ve stated the stepdad’s motivation. ?This could easily be the stepdad’s story.
    • “pushed to the limit” – what would this look like on screen? ?We all have very different limits. ?I’m guessing his limit is defending his life?
    • Does the kid know his dad is a serial killer? ?If he does, that’s pretty fundamental to his character.
    • “the family” – who’s family is this? ?”the” rather than “his” suggests it’s someone else’s family.
    • So the dad blames everyone? ?His own family and all his neighbours for the death of his son? ?What did they do – string him up lynch-mob style? ?Was the son innocent?
    • The fact that the stepdad kills the neighbours – I’m not sure you need this. ?The stepson may want to save them, but his bigger priority would be saving his own family.
    • How old is the stepson? ?Is he an adult or a child? ?Is it his partner and kids he’s protecting or his mum and siblings?

    Regards
    Trix

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  2. Posted: March 15, 2020In: Action

    Private: A daughter of a man whom she was build by becomes a cyborg befriending teams up with a group of other young women to stop robots from invading Earth.

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    OlDustyDogg Logliner
    Added an answer on March 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm

    The daughter of the man who built her becomes a cyborg is a bit redundant. What is the significance of that relationship to the story? Wouldn't whoever built her be considered her father? It's confusing. This isn't perfect but this is what I get from it. A cyborg girl teams up with other young womanRead more

    The daughter of the man who built her becomes a cyborg is a bit redundant. What is the significance of that relationship to the story? Wouldn’t whoever built her be considered her father? It’s confusing. This isn’t perfect but this is what I get from it.

    A cyborg girl teams up with other young woman to stop robots from invading earth.

    I hope this helps.

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  3. Posted: March 14, 2020In: Adventure

    When her baby sister is taken by a dark spirit, a Chippawa girl must go on a journey to find Asibikaashi, spider women to help save her sister.

    mrliteral Samurai
    Added an answer on March 15, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    A lot of things aren't being made clear. Why did the dark spirit kidnap her sister? The stakes are obvious in the sense that she needs her sister back, but other than the risk of NOT getting her back, what are the stakes? What happens to the sister if she isn't saved? Also, no connection between theRead more

    A lot of things aren’t being made clear. Why did the dark spirit kidnap her sister? The stakes are obvious in the sense that she needs her sister back, but other than the risk of NOT getting her back, what are the stakes? What happens to the sister if she isn’t saved?

    Also, no connection between the dream catcher and saving the baby. Why is that her best option? This has already been mentioned as an issue but isn’t being addressed in the revisions. You might not need to mention it in the logline at all, as its relevance will be difficult to establish while trying to get across the basic storyline in a single sentence. The goal is to save her sister; HOW she saves her is something to be specified in a synopsis.

    “Set out on a journey” is superfluous as it adds nothing, and isn’t the imperative portion of the protagonist’s actions. Finding the dream catcher is, apparently, what’s important; what she has to do to find it is not…unless you’re more specific with what this journey entails. If she has to search a haunted forest or something, that indicates danger and drama, but a mere journey in and of itself is very bland and vague. However this also may be something not worth mentioning in a logline, as saving the sister is the important part; what road she takes to get to that point is a detail best left to a longer summary.

    As I’ve said repeatedly elsewhere, starting a logline with When weakens the immediacy of the protagonist’s conflict as well as the logline overall, by not first specifying the character with whom we as readers are meant to identify. Start with the girl, so we know whose story this is, then tell us what she’s up against.

    It could also use an adjective describing her. While “Chippewa” does give some sense of her culture and/or family, it doesn’t tell us much about her personally and individually…and just calling her a girl doesn’t provide a clear indication of her age, either…she could be eight or eighteen, which would make a huge difference in the degree of difficulty going out on her own will involve. If there’s some irony in the premise that can be made clear in the logline, that’s a good hook to make someone want to read more — why will this journey be difficult for her? What is her internal struggle that makes the external struggle even more of a challenge?

    Perhaps try something more like this:

    “A timid Chippewa teenager must save her kidnapped baby sister from a dark spirit intent on stealing the infant’s soul and taking control of their tribe.”

    That actually feels a bit wordy and awkward, but it has the protagonist, antagonist, conflict, and stakes all presented in a clear and understandable manner. You don’t have to tell everybody everything in a logline, you just have to make it clear what the story is about, and make it sound compelling without being confusing. If somebody has to ask a question just to understand the story, the logline has failed — but if they want to ask more about the story because they’re interested, the logline has succeeded.

    Someone reading this might want to know why the older sister is the one who has to save the baby, and not the mom or dad, but they’ll want to read the script to find out. They’re not questioning the validity of the story as presented, they’re curious about the circumstances which created the story presented…that’s what you want your logline to do.

    And proofread carefully for spelling!

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