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two years after Selina was gone she meets Thomas again, who has to try everything to get her out of depression and win her heart
This is barely a coherent logline. Selina and Thomas tell us little about your lead characters. I would guess there are a few Thomas and Selinas out there in the world ;) So try describing your characters in a more specific, dramatic way. You can do this by adding the dramatic purpose of both man anRead more
This is barely a coherent logline.
Selina and Thomas tell us little about your lead characters. I would guess there are a few Thomas and Selinas out there in the world đ
So try describing your characters in a more specific, dramatic way. You can do this by adding the dramatic purpose of both man and women in your story as your character description, like a flaw which represents the need of your characters. Depressive is one, for example. You used it at the end of your logline.
What I don’t get is: did they breakup before or were just friends? They meet again, but why does Thomas have to win her heart and get her out of depression. It comes a little bit out of nowhere.
Why do they have to get together now? Why weren’t they together before if they already knew each other? Was it because of their jobs, their different lifestyles? etc.
You always have to ask yourself this: Why this story- and why right now? Why two years and not, let’s say, 10?
See lessWhen a geek loner forms an unlikely friendship with the bad boy new kid, they set out to help each other get their dream date for prom – the two most popular girls in school.
To add to this... The bad boy new kid would teach the geek to stand up for himself/confidence/to get the waters moving. The geek would help the bad boy/broken bird/damaged goods to open up. I mean - I suppose they both help each other get the waters moving. Who thinks it would be best if they were aRead more
To add to this…
The bad boy new kid would teach the geek to stand up for himself/confidence/to get the waters moving.
The geek would help the bad boy/broken bird/damaged goods to open up.
I mean – I suppose they both help each other get the waters moving.
Who thinks it would be best if they were after the same girl? – and that becomes the MP twist/hook of the logline? Curious.
The stag night before his wedding, a man is handcuffed to a stripper – who turns out to be wanted by cops, the mob, and her psychotic boyfriend.
Hi Mrliteral. Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for the detailed response - some very good points here. but tell us about the guy all this is happening to: whatâs he like? If heâs the main character we need to understand his perspective of the events in which he gets involved. It makes a big diffeRead more
Hi Mrliteral.
Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for the detailed response – some very good points here.
but tell us about the guy all this is happening to: whatâs he like? If heâs the main character we need to understand his perspective of the events in which he gets involved. It makes a big difference to the tone if heâs an easygoing accountant vs. a former assassin.
I wasnât too sure about characterising as it should come across as innate. (Or it did in my mind anyways) But I do very much see your point – heâs a mild mannered guy. Passive. Emasculated. Hen pecked. About to get married to the wrong girl. Throughout this adventure – he gets some cojones.
The phrasing and structure could use some tweaking as well. Just saying he IS? handcuffed to a stripper makes it sound intentional and underwhelming â even though itâs obviously a conflict, it still needs to come across as such. It would also be a stronger conflict, especially for the stripper character, if the psycho is an ex-boyfriend. Not making him an ex makes it sound like she approves of and appreciates his psychotic nature, which seems unlikelyâŚhowever if that is the specific intention, it still could workâŚdepending on the tone and execution in the script.
Yeah – I was worried about that. It does seem to thrown together. Needs specificity.Â
Oh yeah – good point with the ex-boyfriend.
The phrase âstag nightâ is not as widely recognized as âbachelor partyâ, and you could lose the phrase âbefore his weddingâ as thatâs already understood. Use the word count to help define the situation as more than plot; give us a better idea how the character feels about these things. We need to know more than just what happens; it has to be compelling and interesting as conflict from a characterâs point of view.
I hope the wedding comes across as the protagâs strong, clear intention.
I also generally recommend starting a logline with the protagonist, as we tend to to care more about the people these things are happening to than merely the things which are happening. Thatâs how scripts themselves are usually structured, so loglines should be built the same way.
I usually do. In this case – the INTENTION/GOAL is in that first bit. Heâs getting married. He wants to get married. He needs to survive the night to get married. Regardless – good point.
Maybe something like âAn easygoing accountant gets stuck handcuffed to his bachelor party stripper â who is being chased by the cops, the mob, and her psychotic ex-boyfriend.â
A nice longline.
Normally I prefer loglines to be one straightforward sentence, no commas or other punctuation, but there are definitely times when itâs okay to use them. For one thing, you have a group of antagonists, so commas are needed for the list â just donât fill the entire logline with pauses for no reason. The way this is structured, you have the distinct pause after the protagonist and conflict are made clear â without this moment, the whole thing would feel like a rush to get out the information and be unnatural, so itâs better to include it. After the pause, there is a list of antagonists stacking the deck against your main character, and the stakes are implied so they donât need to be stated outrightâŚthus you have everything you need!
I think youâre right – itâs a lot to digest at once.
Thank you for all your points!
TDH
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