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Posted: December 14, 20202020-12-14T02:48:12+10:00 2020-12-14T02:48:12+10:00In: Thriller

A meek middle-aged clerk has to escape a violent interrogation by a determined CIA agent who identifies him as the nation’s number one terrorist menace.

A meek middle-aged clerk has to escape a violent interrogation by a determined CIA agent who identifies him as the nation’s number one terrorist menace.
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    1. Odie Samurai
      2020-12-14T05:17:25+10:00Added an answer on December 14, 2020 at 5:17 am

      Cool, but what happens after the mild-mannered clerk lawyer’s up during a bad cop interrogation? This is a great inciting incident, but I am unable to see Act II or III.

      Keep going, take care.

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    2. Noinex Penpusher
      2020-12-14T07:59:45+10:00Added an answer on December 14, 2020 at 7:59 am

      From what I understand, the clerk is indeed the terrorist. Is that the story? Just checking, because from this logline I get the feeling that you’re implying that the clerk is indeed the terrorist, but if that were the case, you could have worded it different: “The nation’s number one terrorist menace, hiding as a meek middle-aged clerk, has to escape a violent interrogation by a determined CIA agent”. Or even “Nation’s number one terrorist menace must run after being discovered by a determined CIA agent”.
      If you meant that the clerk is not the terrorist, I would change the verb for another one that implies that there’s been a misunderstanding.
      If you did meant it that way, it’s an okay logline. Maybe influenced by @Odie’s comment, I think the logline implies a shorter course of action than a movie. Is it only about escaping a violent interrogation? Or is it a larger story?
      Also, I would find a way to say “nation’s number one terrorist menace” in less words if possible. Though I think it’s important to state that he’s that dangerous, those are 6 words that could be reduced.

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    3. Avakas Logliner
      2020-12-14T18:30:53+10:00Added an answer on December 14, 2020 at 6:30 pm

      OK, cool thanks.
      Very helpful insights.

      We envision it as 12 Angry Men meets Saw, so it is a contained thriller-crime, with more twists than what you guys mentioned or thought of. So there are internal and external arcs for both of them that can fuel Acts II and III.

      But here’s the challenge: how to imply twists and a bigger plot without ruining the surprise.

      Also, the interrogation is not in any way legal. No lawyers. No police. In a basement – or so it seems. And extremely violent, like the ones done in every dictatorship around the word or in every US military prison.

      Lastly, a CIA agent in the the ears of a European person (or anyone who’s not a loyal US citizen) is not that good. I would say, many people would think that he could very easily be a bad guy, so there is a different context. Same goes, at a lesser degree, for a terrorist, especially in certain regions (don’t think of fundamentalist Islamists – although that would be an interesting yet extremely challenging character, and a great sell in Arab regions)

      Have you guys seen Guilty, the Danish film?
      I wonder what logline they had in their pitch.

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      • Odie Samurai
        2020-12-15T03:13:06+10:00Replied to answer on December 15, 2020 at 3:13 am

        I have not seen The Guilty but based on IMDB / Rotten Tomatoes the logline probably looked something like “When getting disconnected from a kidnapping call, an alarm dispatcher and former police officer must use his skills to rescue the woman and apprehend her kidnapper before it’s too late”
        Concerning your question about your challenge, just start with your story’s premise – then build from there. See Examples (top menu) to help construct – the goal is to get your logline in a state where the community can help.

        Take care.

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        • Avakas Logliner
          2020-12-18T00:48:51+10:00Replied to answer on December 18, 2020 at 12:48 am

          That is indeed a correct logline for The Guilty, but it is not representative of the movie and its twists.

          So my not-so-rhetorical question is how can one pull off the promise of a twist without giving away the twist?

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          • Odie Samurai
            2020-12-19T00:55:54+10:00Replied to answer on December 19, 2020 at 12:55 am

            Q: “how can one pull off the promise of a twist without giving away the twist?”
            A: For me, Genre is key and carries with it an inherent payoff for the viewer.
            Check out this “The Sixth Sense” logline in your Thriller genre family:
            “A psychologist struggles to cure a troubled boy who is haunted by a bizarre affliction – he sees dead people” [CREDIT: J GIDEON SARANTINOS].
            Notice we have a protag, story goal, obstacles, and can envision three-acts, but one of the biggest twists in movie history [SPOILER ALERT! The psychologist is – a ghost] is not mentioned. Thus, I revert to my original statement of reviewing the Examples header link to help construct your story basics in a format where we/I can assist – then zhuzh up from there.

            Take care.

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