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Posted: January 16, 20172017-01-16T19:01:17+10:00 2017-01-16T19:01:17+10:00In: Genres

Back under construction again.

Back under construction again.
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    1. dpg Singularity
      2017-01-17T00:59:50+10:00Added an answer on January 17, 2017 at 12:59 am

      There may be a compelling human story embedded in this logline, but alas it is well hidden. ?This logline plays its cards too close to its chest to give a producer or director a clear idea what the plot is.

      “Confront the ghosts of her past” is an much overused trope that could refer to, well, anything. ?Sexual molestation, drug abuse, a death of a loved one, a kidnapping, a tragic accident, a fatal disease. ?When a ?term or phrase can mean anything, it means nothing for the purpose of a logline. To reiterate, the purpose of a logline is to disclose — not conceal — what the primary conflict and dramatic action of the plot.

      Also “ghost of the past” has the logline looking backward in time. ?But loglines are about what the protagonist must do living forward in time.

      So what becomes the objective goal of the protagonist moving forward in time when her father shows up again in her life?

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    2. dpg Singularity
      2017-01-17T04:06:59+10:00Added an answer on January 17, 2017 at 4:06 am

      Wow, that’s a lot of fish to fry in one script. ?What’s the main course, the most important one?

      Frankly, I’m somewhat dubious about her goal of rescuing her parents’ relationship. ?She can try but isn’t it up to her parents to solve their own problems? ?Aren’t they grown ups, autonomous agents beyond her control– or her responsibility? ?Of course, maybe that’s part of her character arc, coming to realize she can’t save others, she can only save herself.

      How does “keep her sanity” translate into a specific goal for her life — not her parents? ?While “abandoning her own family” may be necessary, ?it’s a negative outcome. ?What’s the flip side, the positive outcome? ? How does that translate into a specific objective goal for her. ?What exactly is her future that is in jeopardy? ?What’s the visual on “her future”?

      And if she manages to rescue her parents, how does that translate into enabling her to do something more than just “keep her sanity”? ?What exactly does she want to do with her sanity?

      If she wasn’t trying to rescue others, what would she do to rescue herself?

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    3. dpg Singularity
      2017-01-17T06:19:39+10:00Added an answer on January 17, 2017 at 6:19 am

      And about IMDB. ?I think it?s a valuable resource but, imho, the story summaries are not necessarily good examples of how to write a logline.

      The summaries of stories at IMDB are blurbs. Blurbs are designed to inform and sell the finished film to movie viewers. ?Loglines are designed to inform and sell spec scripts to movie makers. ?Those are 2 different products targeting 2 different markets with 2 different sets of requirements.

      In order to build up my own understanding and skill at composing loglines, I have built up a database of nearly 750 loglines for movies ? not scripts, but for movies that actually got made. ?And I have found IMDB to be a valuable resource for the raw material of writing a logline ? but rarely ?a polished product good enough to copy-paste into the database as a logline.

      Also, in the instance of ?Eat, Pray, Love? the movie is an adaptation from a best-selling book. ?IOW: the concept, the storyline was pre-sold as a book; it?s commercial success was the hook for making the movie. ?A logline was extraneous.
      fwiw

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    4. Richiev Singularity
      2017-01-17T12:27:14+10:00Added an answer on January 17, 2017 at 12:27 pm

      From reading this, it seems that the absents fathers return is what sets the story in motion… If this is the case I would use that to begin your logoline
      —————————————————————————————-
      “When her absent father returns, a (adjective) historical researcher must…”
      ——
      Hope that helps

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    5. dpg Singularity
      2017-01-17T14:46:50+10:00Added an answer on January 17, 2017 at 2:46 pm

      Is the ghost lover literal (as he’s a real ghost; there’s a supernatural element to the story) or is he figurative?

      And I frankly don’t see how “reconstructing the house” will restore the careful balance? ?And what’s the visual look like for “careful balance”. ?As film is a visual medium there needs to be a visual moment that signals to the audience that the protagonist has achieved her objective goal. ?For example, if a female runner’s objective goal is to win Olympic gold, then the obvious visual moment that signals success is when she breaks the tape at the Olympic games.

      Finally, how does her being a historical researcher directly figure into her objective goal as either an asset or a liability (aka: character flaw). ?That she is an historical researcher may flesh out her character in the script, but for the purpose of this logline it seems, well, irrelevant.

      In a logline, where every word must count, any description of the character should relate directly to the objective goal and the central conflict entailed in struggling for that goal. ?Directly either in the sense that the description is about a trait that threatens to defeat the character in her struggle ?(the more common use) or is necessary for the character to reach her goal (less common).

      Examples: ? “The King’s Speech” is about a “stuttering prince”; his stuttering is a liability that threatens to doom him to ?fail to fulfill his objective goal, playing out his role as an English monarch. ?Whereas “Almost Famous” is about a precocious 15-year old boy who gets a writing assignment from the magazine “Rolling Stone”; his precocity is an asset he needs to achieve his objective goal of filing his assignment on deadline.

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    6. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2017-01-18T07:19:24+10:00Added an answer on January 18, 2017 at 7:19 am

      The last draft of the logline presents a disjointed plot. How does the return of her father motivate her to do anything much less reconstruct a house? The cause and effect is unclear.

      Furthermore, the stakes and obstacles are unclear, what’s stopping her reconstruct the house? And what is at stake with her family?? Maintaining the relationships between all the members of the family is not enough for a film. Think of it this way – if she manages to maintain the balance between family and lover (ghost or not) nothing much changes by the end of the film, if she doesn’t she either loses the lover or the family – not nice but no biggie. Best to come up with a goal for her to achieve which puts her at a better position at the end of the film than the start.

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