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  1. Posted: December 14, 2020In: Thriller

    A meek middle-aged clerk has to escape a violent interrogation by a determined CIA agent who identifies him as the nation’s number one terrorist menace.

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    Replied to answer on December 18, 2020 at 12:48 am

    That is indeed a correct logline for The Guilty, but it is not representative of the movie and its twists. So my not-so-rhetorical question is how can one pull off the promise of a twist without giving away the twist?

    That is indeed a correct logline for The Guilty, but it is not representative of the movie and its twists.

    So my not-so-rhetorical question is how can one pull off the promise of a twist without giving away the twist?

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  2. Posted: December 14, 2020In: Thriller

    A meek middle-aged clerk has to escape a violent interrogation by a determined CIA agent who identifies him as the nation’s number one terrorist menace.

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    Added an answer on December 14, 2020 at 6:30 pm

    OK, cool thanks. Very helpful insights. We envision it as 12 Angry Men meets Saw, so it is a contained thriller-crime, with more twists than what you guys mentioned or thought of. So there are internal and external arcs for both of them that can fuel Acts II and III. But here's the challenge: how toRead more

    OK, cool thanks.
    Very helpful insights.

    We envision it as 12 Angry Men meets Saw, so it is a contained thriller-crime, with more twists than what you guys mentioned or thought of. So there are internal and external arcs for both of them that can fuel Acts II and III.

    But here’s the challenge: how to imply twists and a bigger plot without ruining the surprise.

    Also, the interrogation is not in any way legal. No lawyers. No police. In a basement – or so it seems. And extremely violent, like the ones done in every dictatorship around the word or in every US military prison.

    Lastly, a CIA agent in the the ears of a European person (or anyone who’s not a loyal US citizen) is not that good. I would say, many people would think that he could very easily be a bad guy, so there is a different context. Same goes, at a lesser degree, for a terrorist, especially in certain regions (don’t think of fundamentalist Islamists – although that would be an interesting yet extremely challenging character, and a great sell in Arab regions)

    Have you guys seen Guilty, the Danish film?
    I wonder what logline they had in their pitch.

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  3. Posted: December 13, 2020In: Crime

    When a mistress learns her lover has died and his death erroneously ruled a suicide, she must untangle the true cause of his death.

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    Added an answer on December 14, 2020 at 3:02 am

    It is interesting and has some of the main ingredients, namely Character, Inciting incident, Action, Goal, which are all really important. I feel it lacks Stakes, which are implied, but we need more: what will happen if she does not untangle the cause of his death? Is there something original or spiRead more

    It is interesting and has some of the main ingredients, namely Character, Inciting incident, Action, Goal, which are all really important.

    I feel it lacks Stakes, which are implied, but we need more: what will happen if she does not untangle the cause of his death? Is there something original or spicy there? This is extremely important: Stakes.

    Also, some specificity would elevate it.

    Can we get a characterization for the mistress? What type of person is she? Why are we reading her story? Is she young? Is she poor? Is she a trained boxer? Or an orphan who is left alone in the world? Why is he her lover and not her husband? What will she gain or lose? (Again, stakes)

    Another piece is the Problem or the antagonist and the conflict. This is implied, but what will she come up against in her quest for justice? Think ancient Greek tragedies.

    Another thing, would be the mention of the World. What type of place and society does she live in? Is it a city? Is it a dystopian future or ancient Rome?

    Finally, try to bring some Irony in the mix to truly make it unique.

    Hope this helped 🙂

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