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  1. Posted: January 17, 2019In: Fantasy

    When a pirate, a princess, and an outlander discover that their crystal necklaces have magical powers, the three women go on an adventure that leads to saving the world from darkness.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on January 18, 2019 at 9:30 am

    This is an improvement, but it still suffers from some of the same problems, and new problems as the previous version Logline: "When a pirate, a princess, and an outlander discover that their crystal necklaces have magical powers, the three women go on an adventure that leads to saving the world froRead more

    This is an improvement, but it still suffers from some of the same problems, and new problems as the previous version

    Logline: “When a pirate, a princess, and an outlander discover that their crystal necklaces have magical powers, the three women go on an adventure that leads to saving the world from darkness.” (31 words)

    Inciting incident: “When a pirate, a princess, and an outlander discover that their crystal necklaces have magical powers,” —> This sounds like an inciting incident, but it seems to me it’s more like what I refer to as the ‘Catalyst’. The ‘Catalyst’ is the event before the inciting incident which introduces the protagonist to their new world and the conflict, but it does not force them into it. The discovery of the necklace’s powers doesn’t force them into any conflict. They could choose to do anything. They could rob banks. They could get revenge. They could become supervilllians/heroes. But the inciting incident should be tailor-made for the specific conflict. The specific event is likely when the antagonist(s) attacks at first.

    For example, think of Star Wars. The inciting incident may seem like the moment when Luke discovers the message from Princess Leia, but this doesn’t event doesn’t?force?him into the conflict. He just becomes aware of it, and then seeks out Ben Kenobi, making this event part of the Catalyst. The inciting incident comes when Luke, after being urged by Ben Kenobi to learn to use the Force, returns home to find that Stormtroopers have killed his family. It’s at that moment when decides to leave home, he even says it: “I want to come with you to Alderaan. There is nothing here for me now. I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father.”(emphasis mine)
    So, to break it down:
    Inciting incident: Luke’s family killed by Empire. —>?This inciting incident forces Luke into a conflict with the Empire, and only?the Empire.
    Goal: Help Rebellion destroy Empire(more specifically, destroy Empire’s Death Star.) —> A specific objective, which is still a part of the conflict with the Empire.
    Climax: Rebellion’s battle to destroy Death Star.

    Protagonist: “a pirate, a princess, and an outlander ” —> Feedback hasn’t changed from previous version.

    Goal: “the three women go on an adventure that leads to saving the world from darkness.” —> This does not describe an objective. A logline should describe? specific objective. Look above at the Star Wars example, and also refer back to previous version.

    Antagonist: Unclear. —> The logline implies that there is an antagonist, but it doesn’t not imply who, because “the three women go on an adventure that leads to saving the world from darkness.” does not imply a specific character working against them, because this is a vague statement that is not visually descriptive.

    I think Richiev’s version is an improvement, and provides a good framework to use for a revision.

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  2. Posted: January 16, 2019In: Fantasy

    The coming-of-age stories of a swashbuckling pirate, a rebellious princess, and an adventuring cuisinier.

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    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on January 16, 2019 at 11:38 pm

    Please read through the formula tab at the top of the page, and also read through the loglines other people have posted and read through the feedback they receive. Doing this will help you to understand the format and elements of a logline. Logline: "The coming-of-age stories of a swashbuckling piraRead more

    Please read through the formula tab at the top of the page, and also read through the loglines other people have posted and read through the feedback they receive. Doing this will help you to understand the format and elements of a logline.

    Logline: “The coming-of-age stories of a swashbuckling pirate, a rebellious princess, and an adventuring cuisinier.” (14 words)

    This attempt lacks many of the elements a logline should describe.
    Is this for a film or television series?

    Inciting incident: None described. —> Should describe the event in the story which forces the protagonist into the main conflict.
    Example(Finding Nemo): Marlin’s son, Nemo is? captured.

    Protagonist: “swashbuckling pirate, a rebellious princess, and an adventuring cuisinier.” —> If this is a film, is there one character who gets focused on more? If it’s a television series, is there a character who gets focused on more in the first episode?
    Example: Marlin is the clear protagonist of “Finding Nemo”. Not Dory or any other character. Marlin is the one pursuing the objective goal which drives the story.

    Goal: None described. —> Because of the inciting incident, what must the protagonist set out to accomplish?? What is the climax of the story? The goal should be the objective of what will be accomplished at that point.
    Example: Marlin must find his son Nemo.

    The climax of the story should be an inevitable outcome which comes about because of the inciting incident. The goal should have a causal relationship with the inciting incident. Taking a look at “Finding Nemo”:

    Inciting incident: Nemo is captured.
    Protagonist’s Goal: Find Nemo.
    Climax: Marlin is reunited with his son.

    Antagonist: None described/implied. —> Is there a specific character/group who opposes the protagonist?

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  3. Posted: December 30, 2018In: Fantasy

    Set in the year 1693: When they flee the Salem witch trials and end up in the land of the Wendigo, a naive Witch must use the dangerous power of the Black Flame in order to protect her and her sisters from ferocious demon.

    Richiev Singularity
    Added an answer on January 3, 2019 at 1:03 pm

    What is the lead character's goal? Is it to destroy the demon and stay in the land of Wendigo, or is it to escape the land of windigo and get back to the real world?

    What is the lead character’s goal?

    Is it to destroy the demon and stay in the land of Wendigo, or is it to escape the land of windigo and get back to the real world?

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