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Tim Lea
Posted: May 30, 20122012-05-30T07:58:12+10:00 2012-05-30T07:58:12+10:00In: Public

Ed Noble?s world falls apart when a suicide bomber murders his family. Holding the bomber?s spiritual leader responsible, Ed resorts to desperate measures to bring him to account.

The Screenplay is a thriller about Ed Noble who loses his family to a suicide bomber. Ed holds the bomber’s spiritual leader responsible for their death. His world is spiralling into deep depression and after numerous thwarted attempts to confront the spiritual leader to bring him to account, Ed resorts to desperate measures to bring him to account in a language he feels the spiritual leader will understand when he seizes a rural Mosque holding a group of 7 hostages.

During the course of the siege conflict abounds – the political backdrop, the police’s desire to resolve the siege peacefully together with the TV station that ran the human story of Ed the previous year, who now have a difficult, but very ratings friendly, story. Through the use of technology, Ed manipulates the media story to the international stage to bring the siege to a climax. Does the spiritual leader agree to having his world exposed ? For the sake of the hostages, lets hope so…

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    1. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2012-05-30T11:37:06+10:00Added an answer on May 30, 2012 at 11:37 am

      Aside from the tender subject of PCness.

      This is clearly a revenge story, which is a good place to start as you can easily research the genre.
      But the logline doesn’t stipulate what the main action of the story will be. It has an MC and an II but no goal, obstacle or clear antagonist.

      From your story description it also seams as if Ed needs to develop internally as a character to facilitate his overcoming the trauma but this isn’t made clear. Also I find that “attempts to confront” are normally quite boring for story purposes best to cut strait to the first act of revenge.

      May be a good idea to start with clearly defining Ed’s antagonist is it the: police trying to stop the siege, the media exposing Ed or the spiritual leader?

      Hope this helps.

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    2. Tim Lea
      2012-05-30T15:30:14+10:00Added an answer on May 30, 2012 at 3:30 pm

      Thx or your feedback Nir – very much appreciate it.

      Fundamentally the story from a top-line perspective has the potential to be viewed as unPC. Rest assured I am only too mindful of walking a fine line between controversy and bad taste. The script I believe walks this balance as the core theme is the power of humanity to reconcile religious divides.

      In regards the antagonist, essentially it is extremism with the spiritual leader reflecting this. The police and the media, whilst presenting conflict towards the protagonist ultimately have some sympathy with him – even though by virtue of their roles they have a naturally antagonistic role to play – although clearly they can never express this sympathy publicly.

      Hence the delicate balance I need to draw in the logline and hence the desire to see how it shapes up with others here on logline.it.

      (PS my brother converted to Islam about 25 years ago – so I am very conscious and respectful of the Islamic religion – a tight balance to have with a controversial top-line theme ).

      Thanks for your words – hopefully this gives a little bit of additional background …..

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    3. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2012-05-30T17:08:09+10:00Added an answer on May 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm

      Hi Tim
      My pleasure glad to share thoughts.

      Understood but it sounds more like your thinking in terms of controlling idea than a logline so my previous comments still apply.
      In regards to your last post on the antagonist in your story I think that extremism is too vague an antagonist. You may need to specify, through their actions, a person or organization as the antagonist rather than a tendency.
      Nir.

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    4. cicpisces
      2012-05-30T19:11:19+10:00Added an answer on May 30, 2012 at 7:11 pm

      Not a particular favourite this genre but you have the basics of a good logline. I’d like to see more about Ed Noble’s world to make it more interesting. Maybe some unique concept to make him a great antagonist.
      From a sympathy point of view it is a balancing act to get the audience to root for someone just out for revenge, unless he is also clearly saving people from further hardship.

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    5. Chris Andrews Penpusher
      2012-05-30T19:45:12+10:00Added an answer on May 30, 2012 at 7:45 pm

      Hi Tim. I like this – it gives me a fairly solid idea about what to expect if I were to read the script. Revenge/action/thriller is my first impression.

      Thoughts: I’d suggest you don’t name the protagonist though – give a brief description instead. Ie, a distraught family man… Second, loglines are usually a single sentence if you could conbine them I think it might read better. Finally, I’d try and make it clear exactly what the relationship is, ie, the protagonist is holding someone responsible – but there’s the hint of a question as to whether he’s justified or not. If he’s not, it could give an entirely different slant to the movie.

      Cheers
      C

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    6. patrockable
      2012-05-31T01:07:41+10:00Added an answer on May 31, 2012 at 1:07 am

      Interesting thriller – can you say it in fewer words?

      Phrases like “world falls apart” and “resorts to desperate measures” are too vague, and can be removed or made more specific.

      I suggest something like:

      When a suicide bomber murders his family, Ed attempts to bring the bomber?s spiritual leader to justice by seizing his Mosque, holding seven people hostage.

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    7. Tim Lea
      2012-05-31T06:44:32+10:00Added an answer on May 31, 2012 at 6:44 am

      Thx again Nir – I had been struggling with the antagonist idea for a while and you’ve given me some very interesting and helpful views on it. Thx

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    8. Tim Lea
      2012-05-31T06:51:06+10:00Added an answer on May 31, 2012 at 6:51 am

      You’re right saving people from further hardship does give more resonance to the issue of revenge. I guess my protagonist does want revenge at some level but what he needs is more an understanding, to bring someone to justice, but more importantly he is trying to deal with loss. In the script he has tried to confront the spiritual leader on a number of occasions. He has been blanked every time. I am trying to walk a fine balance …..ths for the useful feedback it has helped me shape the direction of the logline further.

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    9. Tim Lea
      2012-05-31T06:57:54+10:00Added an answer on May 31, 2012 at 6:57 am

      Interesting thoughts Chris, thx. As with earlier comments, the move is mainly thriller with revenge as a theme rather than its core theme. Its more about understanding and justice. in regards the antagonist they always say villains don’t know they are villains, and in the script there is a tape of the spiritual leader’s ramblings that was inadmissible in court and suppressed. My protagonist has a copy and wants to expose it. As for shortening – you’re right. thx again..

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    10. Tim Lea
      2012-05-31T07:02:43+10:00Added an answer on May 31, 2012 at 7:02 am

      Hey patrochable – thx for the logline idea – it is summarised very well. The complication (to date) is the spiritual leader is offshore and in the script (to date) the protagonist has been deported from Indonesia for threatening to kill the leader….but the logline you suggest gives me a stronger direction than I had – so thx for that..

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    11. APS
      2014-01-20T03:32:47+10:00Added an answer on January 20, 2014 at 3:32 am

      Firstly Tim, I am sorry for your loss.

      Secondly, if the `spiritual leader` is a muslim (why not call a spade a spade? You mention mosque…), then he wouldn`t care about sacrificing muslim hostages. These scum will happily massacre their own brand of faith, if it means killing the `infidel`. So I don`t see the relevancy of making him accountable in such a way. Also bin ladin used his children and wives as shields, so even if you had his family as hostages, it`d be a non-starter. It`d just strengthen the conviction for reprisal.

      If you are going to write this, do it properly. Research thoroughly. Don`t ask muslims for advice, it`s never accurate. Read the quran (whichever version of islam your character is), watch international news and search the archives.

      You may feel that this film can be passable in researched detail, but it will be scrutinised, and will appeal to those with more knowledge than a layman.

      One final consideration is the well-being and safety of both yourself and those you love. Just look at the danish cartoonist. If you portray anything mildly provocative, I assure you some insane scum will take violent offence. Particularly against your muslim brother.

      That is not saying your story should be canned, merely be cautious.

      N.B. I`m ex-Royal Marines, GB

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