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gdawg23
Posted: December 18, 20132013-12-18T07:45:25+10:00 2013-12-18T07:45:25+10:00In: Public

In dystopian future governed by a biotechnology corporation, a young woman?s investigation into her father?s sudden disappearance leads her to believe he is a test-subject in a secret government location called ?The Factory?. When she finds herself with a group of prisoners on a vehicle heading towards an unknown location, she realizes she is on her way to The Factory and must find her father and escape before they are changed forever.

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    1. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-19T05:03:03+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 5:03 am

      Stories about bioengineering have a good future in Sci-Fi in movies. But the problem for me in this logline is that It conceals more than it reveals.

      Of course, a logline isn’t supposed to bare all — certainly not how the story ends, but we do need enough tantalizing details to get our attention, get us wanting to know more. In the case of this logline, what I think we need to know more about is the nature of the threat. What does the big bad corporation intend to do to the father and daughter that will change them forever?

      Also, the logline seems long on discoveries the daughter makes but short on what she does about them (“Investigation… leads her to believe”, “…finds herself…”, “…she realizes”). A logline is about ONE major discovery the protagonist makes, a discovery that triggers her into action toward a SPECIFIC objective goal.

      So what is the ONE discovery, the most important discovery the daughter makes that triggers the action that constitutes the plot?

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    2. gdawg23
      2013-12-19T05:50:59+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 5:50 am

      That is very helpful and may indicate a problem in my overall story. I want her to discover what happened to her father and THEN be kidnapped into the same experiment and need to find her father and escape with him… but maybe that doesn’t make her active enough.

      Here is a new stab at it, but it doesn’t necessarily address everything you have mentioned. What do you think?

      In dystopian future governed by a biotechnology corporation, a young woman?s investigation into her father?s sudden disappearance leads her to believe he is a test-subject in a horrifying government conspiracy that takes political prisoners and turns them into genetically modified super-soldiers. When she is kidnapped for the experiment herself, she must find her father and escape before they are changed forever.

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    3. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-19T06:35:21+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 6:35 am

      gdawg23:

      As Karel Segers points out in his logline guidelines for this site, a logline is ideally 30 words or less. That is not a number he’s pulling out of thin air. Being a quant guy, I put the guideline to a statistical test, collected and analyzed a fairly random sample of 500 loglines for movies. The median average word length was 23. Almost 88% were 30 words or shorter. None of them exceeded 40 words in length.

      Your 2nd iteration is 61 words long.

      So you need to look for every way to trim words, cut to the chase. For example, “investigation into her father?s sudden disappearance leads her to believe he is” = discovers. So all you need to say in the logline is something like ” When young woman discovers her father…” (You’ll fill out the details of the discovery in the script.)

      And “a test-subject in a horrifying government conspiracy that takes political prisoners and turns them into genetically modified super-soldiers.” (18 words) seems to say something like “enemies of the state are punished by being genetically re-engineered as super-soldiers” (12 words)

      And that’s as far as I can go at the moment as I don’t pretend to have a good handle on your concept and I don’t want to superimpose my own. I realize trimming your story down to 30 words max is no easy task. Your story seems to be packed with a lot of plot and a lot of ideas.

      Best wishes. Hope this helps.

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    4. gdawg23
      2013-12-19T07:15:16+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 7:15 am

      Very helpful. Thank you.

      In a dystopian future, a young woman discovers her father has been kidnapped into a government program that genetically modifies enemies of the state. Now she must find her father and escape before they are both changed forever.

      38 words!!

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    5. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-19T08:13:59+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 8:13 am

      Or::

      In a dystopian future, a young woman struggles to rescue her father and other political prisoners from being tortured, re-programmed, and tamed with genetic modification. (25 words)

      [However, neither shorter version captures the ironical goal of the program, to transform people from fighting against the state to fighting for it.]

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    6. gdawg23
      2013-12-19T08:24:51+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 8:24 am

      Nice!

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    7. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-19T08:27:26+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 8:27 am

      Or:

      In a dystopian future, a young female guerilla fights to sabotage a secret program to genetically re-engineer political dissidents who fight the state into super-soldiers who fight for it.

      (29 words)

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    8. gdawg23
      2013-12-19T08:36:54+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 8:36 am

      Hmmm. this is good but for my story I think it is more important to find a way to explain that they way she is planning on getting her father out of the program is by getting herself abducted into it:

      In a dystopian future, a young woman attempts to rescue her father from a secret government program that tortures and genetically modifies enemies of the state by getting herself abducted into it.

      I’m trying to figure out a better way of saying “by getting herself abducted into it.” cause that sounds badly worded to me.

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    9. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-19T08:53:11+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 8:53 am

      Why not have her get arrested for her guerilla activity and punished with the very torture and genetic modification she has been fighting to sabotage?

      She could be the ultimate human guinea pig in the trial program to prove it’s good enough to go into production with the entire prison population of rebels and dissidents. If they can crack and transform her, the person whom psychological profiling has determined is an uber-rebel, the most defiant and strong-willed of the rebel typology, they can crack and subdue anyone.

      [IOW: A kick-ass female protagonist in the mold of Trinity (the Matrix) , Lisbeth Salander (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) and Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games)]

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    10. mdfidelity Penpusher
      2013-12-20T02:41:15+10:00Added an answer on December 20, 2013 at 2:41 am

      Who is the girl? What importance is she? Why would they take her father? I believe if you bare it down. We don’t need to know if it’s in the future or not. Just the significance of why.

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