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lefthandedpenPenpusher
Posted: July 2, 20202020-07-02T02:57:26+10:00 2020-07-02T02:57:26+10:00In: Family

When a gigantic firestorm burns through a family’s horse ranch in October 2003, the miracles it leaves behind bring Grant, an accomplished physicist, to the brink of believing in something more powerful than science.

A logline for my completed 93 page screenplay.

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      Richiev Singularity
      2020-07-02T04:37:45+10:00Added an answer on July 2, 2020 at 4:37 am

      A logline should tell the reader who’s the lead character, what they want, and what’s standing in their way.

      Because I don’t know what your lead character wants, it’s difficult to tell what the story is about.

      I can see it has something to do with magic apples, but not sure what the magic apples do nor what the lead character plans on doing with the magic apples now that he has them.

      Anyway, this is just a critique of the logline, not the story itself.

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      • lefthandedpen Penpusher
        2020-07-02T05:53:54+10:00Replied to answer on July 2, 2020 at 5:53 am

        Thanks for your appraisal. Writing a good logline is incredibly hard, isn’t it? Its a trade off. In this case I’m giving you Grant’s inciting incident: his fatal fall at 8-years-old that he miraculously survived somehow. Miracles and scientists don’t get along. Now he’s dealing with whatever these magic apples are. The last line is what he wants.

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    2. dpg Singularity
      2020-07-02T07:39:01+10:00Added an answer on July 2, 2020 at 7:39 am

      Agree with Richiev.

      It isn’t clear at all as to what the plot is about. The logline teases but doesn’t inform. All we can read are the words on the screen. We can’t read your mind.

      Furthermore his “want” is a passive statement. The job of a protagonist is to proactively purpose a course of action to obtain what he wants. I and few other billion people want the pandemic to cease. But merely wanting that outcome won’t make it happen.

      What must he do to get what he wants?

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      • dpg Singularity
        2020-07-02T08:49:11+10:00Replied to answer on July 2, 2020 at 8:49 am

        Correction: The job of a protagonist is to proactively PURSUE a course of action…

        And it is not advisable that a logline trade off clarity for cleverness.

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    3. Mike Pedley Singularity
      2020-07-02T08:18:11+10:00Added an answer on July 2, 2020 at 8:18 am

      As per dpg and Richiev.

      In addition:

      We don’t need names in a logline. It adds no value, only more words. Instead, consider telling us who Grant is. You mentioned he is a scientist but what is his character flaw? What is the characteristic that gives him his arc? Given that the audience must follow him for 90+mins, it’s important to understand why, even just in the logline.

      The magic apples… are they literal or figurative?

      Grant shouldn’t have lived to see his ninth birthday… ok. How old is he now? Given that the story is told now, his current age is arguably more important than the age he was when he could have died.

      I really have no idea what the plot is about. Does Grant wish that wonders would cease? If so, why? A world without wonder sounds pretty grim.

      To me, this is more like a bit of marketing spiel you could put on the back of the DVD cover. That’s not what a logline is though. A logline MUST tell us what the plot is.

      I would argue that the inciting incident isn’t his fall at 8 years old, it’s getting the magic bag of apples. That’s what starts his actual journey. The fall is merely backstory. It might have impacted his character now, but it’s not the event that gives our hero a quest. Or at least I assume this is the case. I can’t say for sure without understanding what happens after this guy gets his bag of apples.

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    4. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2020-07-02T12:15:02+10:00Added an answer on July 2, 2020 at 12:15 pm

      My fellow logliners will disagree. But tell them the story. My brother had read the lord of the rings every year since he was 13. At 45 we went to a midnight screen on day one. Producers don’t need intrigue. They need to be able to make a decision. They are not the audience, they are your future collaborators.

      They also do not see your logline in isolation. They have 1000 to review. So one that isn’t clear what the movie is about, is not given a second thought. This is my belief and approach to the world. Like I said, my fellow logliners will disagree.

      So what have we got.

      A kid falling from a tree, magic apples deposited by a firestorm and potentially a person that doesn’t pick up on clues.

      What is the genre, budget, lead character, era… I don’t have enough to make a decision.

      I hope my rant helps.

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      • dpg Singularity
        2020-07-03T02:19:12+10:00Replied to answer on July 3, 2020 at 2:19 am

        I agree with CraigDGriffiths.

        Particularly on the point that if a logline isn’t clear and concise as to what the project is about, it’s DOA. No one will give it a second thought.

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      • lefthandedpen Penpusher
        2020-07-04T08:33:11+10:00Replied to answer on July 4, 2020 at 8:33 am

        Yes, I’ve done what you advised and written it for its most important audience—producers. Thanks for your well-reasoned advice. THE MAGIC APPLES is now entered in the ScreenCraft Drama Competition, the Los Angeles International Screenplay Awards, and Launch Pad’s Feature Competition for 2020. You may read and critique my work for free on Coverfly X Peer Notes. Please feel free to do so, everyone. This story is based on true miraculous events during the Cedar Fire of 2003, and you will not be bored—I promise.

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