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lewisricekrispyPenpusher
Posted: October 21, 20142014-10-21T07:47:36+10:00 2014-10-21T07:47:36+10:00In: Public

When a cattle drover losses the bonus his family was counting on to survive, he turns to bounty hunting War Criminals in a Post-apocolyptic Australian Outback.

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    1. lewisricekrispy Penpusher
      2014-10-23T07:27:32+10:00Added an answer on October 23, 2014 at 7:27 am

      Cheers.
      Regarding bounties, I may be wrong, but if a dead or alive poster is put up then anyone who brings them in should get the bounty? I have in my mind that he will be trained up in the life by a veteran, so should get work.

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    2. lewisricekrispy Penpusher
      2014-10-23T07:27:32+10:00Added an answer on October 23, 2014 at 7:27 am

      Cheers.
      Regarding bounties, I may be wrong, but if a dead or alive poster is put up then anyone who brings them in should get the bounty? I have in my mind that he will be trained up in the life by a veteran, so should get work.

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    3. dpg Singularity
      2014-10-23T00:22:36+10:00Added an answer on October 23, 2014 at 12:22 am

      >>>The hero has been sheltered by his father from this brutal world, so killing isn?t in his nature

      I think the concept has potential for compelling character arc. But… if he’s a sheltered and retiring nice guy, why would anyone hire him to be a bounty hunter? Before he can take the job, doesn’t somebody have to be willing to offer it to him?

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    4. dpg Singularity
      2014-10-23T00:22:36+10:00Added an answer on October 23, 2014 at 12:22 am

      >>>The hero has been sheltered by his father from this brutal world, so killing isn?t in his nature

      I think the concept has potential for compelling character arc. But… if he’s a sheltered and retiring nice guy, why would anyone hire him to be a bounty hunter? Before he can take the job, doesn’t somebody have to be willing to offer it to him?

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    5. lewisricekrispy Penpusher
      2014-10-22T17:42:34+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 5:42 pm

      Thanks for the input.

      I envisage this to be a wild west type of world, but set in Australia, because of it’s vastness. With out giving to much away, the story is set twenty or so years after a number of events led to the creation of this world. Comunities have been established, and famine is widespread. Transporting supplies, and in this case, cattle, is big business (but comes with risk). I never specified what the bonus would be, could be traded goods, paying off debts etc. Even in the future, business is business.
      The war criminals that they are tracking will be those responsiable for the canabalisms, rapes and many other crimes which were carried out during the past twenty years.
      As a ticking clock, I’ve made it that in order for them to move on, Justice must be applied for and then served before a set time (as it becomes invalid).
      The hero has been sheltered by his father from this brutal world, so killing isn’t in his nature. To him, cattle droving is a means to an end.
      Regarding the antagonist, I’m not sure weather i’ll put him in the logline, but i’ll defenantly build a better one.

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    6. lewisricekrispy Penpusher
      2014-10-22T17:42:34+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 5:42 pm

      Thanks for the input.

      I envisage this to be a wild west type of world, but set in Australia, because of it’s vastness. With out giving to much away, the story is set twenty or so years after a number of events led to the creation of this world. Comunities have been established, and famine is widespread. Transporting supplies, and in this case, cattle, is big business (but comes with risk). I never specified what the bonus would be, could be traded goods, paying off debts etc. Even in the future, business is business.
      The war criminals that they are tracking will be those responsiable for the canabalisms, rapes and many other crimes which were carried out during the past twenty years.
      As a ticking clock, I’ve made it that in order for them to move on, Justice must be applied for and then served before a set time (as it becomes invalid).
      The hero has been sheltered by his father from this brutal world, so killing isn’t in his nature. To him, cattle droving is a means to an end.
      Regarding the antagonist, I’m not sure weather i’ll put him in the logline, but i’ll defenantly build a better one.

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    7. Tony Edward Samurai
      2014-10-22T17:30:16+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      Very valid points from both dpg and Nir — maybe a better focus/ motivation is redemption rather than financial gain (even though the financial gain equates to survival…)…

      “In a post apocalyptic Australia, a law abiding farmer joins an aging bounty hunter to find and kill the war criminals that killed his family and destroyed his farm.”

      Best of luck with it.

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    8. Tony Edward Samurai
      2014-10-22T17:30:16+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      Very valid points from both dpg and Nir — maybe a better focus/ motivation is redemption rather than financial gain (even though the financial gain equates to survival…)…

      “In a post apocalyptic Australia, a law abiding farmer joins an aging bounty hunter to find and kill the war criminals that killed his family and destroyed his farm.”

      Best of luck with it.

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    9. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2014-10-22T13:42:13+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      When you pin losing the bonus up against fighting killers in a post apocalypse world the two don’t match each other.

      What I mean is if he is going out to kill people why would he care about making a little bit more money from a bonus? As previously mentioned the world has ended as we know it and civilization has broken down. Salaries and bonuses are now meaningless it’s resources alone which will determine life and death. If the main action of the MC will be determining who lives and dies the event that sets him off on that action needs to be compelling enough to do so in a world that life and death are so easily exchanged.

      That’s probably why in Mad Max the MC’s family are killed to set him off on killing the gang that did it.

      The MC description also seams cumbersome “cattle drover” better one word farmer. More so in stories such as this best to specify a single antagonist rather than a generic war criminals. This way the obligatory end scene when he defeats the bad guy or gal is alluded to and the main action the MC will take for most of the film is clearer.

      Hope this helps.

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    10. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2014-10-22T13:42:13+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      When you pin losing the bonus up against fighting killers in a post apocalypse world the two don’t match each other.

      What I mean is if he is going out to kill people why would he care about making a little bit more money from a bonus? As previously mentioned the world has ended as we know it and civilization has broken down. Salaries and bonuses are now meaningless it’s resources alone which will determine life and death. If the main action of the MC will be determining who lives and dies the event that sets him off on that action needs to be compelling enough to do so in a world that life and death are so easily exchanged.

      That’s probably why in Mad Max the MC’s family are killed to set him off on killing the gang that did it.

      The MC description also seams cumbersome “cattle drover” better one word farmer. More so in stories such as this best to specify a single antagonist rather than a generic war criminals. This way the obligatory end scene when he defeats the bad guy or gal is alluded to and the main action the MC will take for most of the film is clearer.

      Hope this helps.

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    11. dpg Singularity
      2014-10-22T09:44:17+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 9:44 am

      In order to survive in the chaos of post-apocalyptic Australia, a diffident young man takes the only job available, as a tracker and killer of psychopathic criminals.

      In a P-A world (post-apocalyptic) world, wouldn’t law and justice have broken down? Who would care about normal due process? Wouldn’t street or vigilante justice be the standard m.o. rather than court justice?

      Isn’t that the defining characteristic, the appeal of the P-A genre, a regression to a Hobbesian world of war of all against all, every man for himself, where life is short, nasty and brutish?

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    12. dpg Singularity
      2014-10-22T09:44:17+10:00Added an answer on October 22, 2014 at 9:44 am

      In order to survive in the chaos of post-apocalyptic Australia, a diffident young man takes the only job available, as a tracker and killer of psychopathic criminals.

      In a P-A world (post-apocalyptic) world, wouldn’t law and justice have broken down? Who would care about normal due process? Wouldn’t street or vigilante justice be the standard m.o. rather than court justice?

      Isn’t that the defining characteristic, the appeal of the P-A genre, a regression to a Hobbesian world of war of all against all, every man for himself, where life is short, nasty and brutish?

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    13. lewisricekrispy Penpusher
      2014-10-21T18:48:58+10:00Added an answer on October 21, 2014 at 6:48 pm

      How about

      when a teenage cattle drover loses both his father and the bonus that his starving family were counting on to survive, he joins forces with an ageing gun-slinger, competing for the last availible bounties from capturing war criminals in post-apcolyptic Australia.

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    14. lewisricekrispy Penpusher
      2014-10-21T18:48:58+10:00Added an answer on October 21, 2014 at 6:48 pm

      How about

      when a teenage cattle drover loses both his father and the bonus that his starving family were counting on to survive, he joins forces with an ageing gun-slinger, competing for the last availible bounties from capturing war criminals in post-apcolyptic Australia.

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    15. Tony Edward Samurai
      2014-10-21T16:21:14+10:00Added an answer on October 21, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      I think technically the logline could be tightened up a bit — for a feature film at least — you could be more specific in terms of his goal (i.e. how many war crims would it take for him to save the family farm etc…?) or, you could include a ticking clock — BUT — I think it’s a killer concept, particularly if pitched as a TV series, where I think you could get away with it as is in that context. I am drawn to the MC, as he reads as a hard working guy wanting to do anything to save his family and livelihood, can envisage some great action and suspense, and can see the potential arc of the MC (something that could be made even more clearer through character description in the logline…)… and Australia is still a great locale for shooting a post apocalyptic landscape — I see Mad Max (“Road Warrior” for those outside Australia…) meets The Road, meets Must Be The Place…

      Best of luck — good stuff.

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    16. Tony Edward Samurai
      2014-10-21T16:21:14+10:00Added an answer on October 21, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      I think technically the logline could be tightened up a bit — for a feature film at least — you could be more specific in terms of his goal (i.e. how many war crims would it take for him to save the family farm etc…?) or, you could include a ticking clock — BUT — I think it’s a killer concept, particularly if pitched as a TV series, where I think you could get away with it as is in that context. I am drawn to the MC, as he reads as a hard working guy wanting to do anything to save his family and livelihood, can envisage some great action and suspense, and can see the potential arc of the MC (something that could be made even more clearer through character description in the logline…)… and Australia is still a great locale for shooting a post apocalyptic landscape — I see Mad Max (“Road Warrior” for those outside Australia…) meets The Road, meets Must Be The Place…

      Best of luck — good stuff.

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