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RichievSingularity
Posted: February 28, 20152015-02-28T12:59:40+10:00 2015-02-28T12:59:40+10:00In: Public

"When her seafaring father goes missing, a headstrong girl who grew up upon stories of the sea, disguises herself as a boy and joins the crew of a Phoenician trading galley to discover clues to her dads whereabouts."

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    1. dpg Singularity
      2015-03-01T05:04:39+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 5:04 am

      When her sailor father is kidnapped by pirates, his headstrong daughter disguises herself as a boy and joins a Phoenician trading galley to find and rescue him.

      (One plus factor of the premise is its historical malleability: that is, the situation would work just as effectively in any time era until the early decades of 19th Century when pirates were finally eradicated from the waters of the Mediterranean Sea.)

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    2. dpg Singularity
      2015-03-01T05:04:39+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 5:04 am

      When her sailor father is kidnapped by pirates, his headstrong daughter disguises herself as a boy and joins a Phoenician trading galley to find and rescue him.

      (One plus factor of the premise is its historical malleability: that is, the situation would work just as effectively in any time era until the early decades of 19th Century when pirates were finally eradicated from the waters of the Mediterranean Sea.)

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    3. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-03-01T06:21:17+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 6:21 am

      On what playing field does this story take place?

      Just before/while/just after – a major incident in time in Phoenician history

      Trying to start things up, My take in sucky English:

      “Just before Alexander the Greats siege of Tyre in 332 B.C. , a headstrong Phoenician girl disguised as a boy joins the crew of one of her fathers (Phoenician) trading galleys (leaving Tyre), to discover he has been taken prisoner by Alexander?s army and send to America?s first prison colony “

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    4. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-03-01T06:21:17+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 6:21 am

      On what playing field does this story take place?

      Just before/while/just after – a major incident in time in Phoenician history

      Trying to start things up, My take in sucky English:

      “Just before Alexander the Greats siege of Tyre in 332 B.C. , a headstrong Phoenician girl disguised as a boy joins the crew of one of her fathers (Phoenician) trading galleys (leaving Tyre), to discover he has been taken prisoner by Alexander?s army and send to America?s first prison colony “

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    5. Richiev Singularity
      2015-03-01T06:32:47+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 6:32 am

      DPG; a solid re-write, taking out ‘who grew up upon stories of the sea,’ does help the logline flow.

      The pirate idea gives the lead a solid goal, however I was thinking of this as a possible TV series.

      The ragtag crew get’s into one scrape or another in the ancient Mediterranean with an overall storyline of ‘what happened to the leads father’

      A little bit ‘Star Trek’, a little bit ‘The Odyssey.

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    6. Richiev Singularity
      2015-03-01T06:32:47+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 6:32 am

      DPG; a solid re-write, taking out ‘who grew up upon stories of the sea,’ does help the logline flow.

      The pirate idea gives the lead a solid goal, however I was thinking of this as a possible TV series.

      The ragtag crew get’s into one scrape or another in the ancient Mediterranean with an overall storyline of ‘what happened to the leads father’

      A little bit ‘Star Trek’, a little bit ‘The Odyssey.

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    7. Richiev Singularity
      2015-03-01T06:41:33+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 6:41 am

      Rutger; I like the idea of adding ‘one of her fathers trading galleys’ because I see her father as a successful Phoenician trader.

      It also gives the crew a reason to help her on her quest when they inevitably discover she’s a girl. Out of loyalty and friendship with her father they take on her quest to discover what happened to him.

      As for the time frame, I was thinking around 400 BC. but I am flexible on that.

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    8. Richiev Singularity
      2015-03-01T06:41:33+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 6:41 am

      Rutger; I like the idea of adding ‘one of her fathers trading galleys’ because I see her father as a successful Phoenician trader.

      It also gives the crew a reason to help her on her quest when they inevitably discover she’s a girl. Out of loyalty and friendship with her father they take on her quest to discover what happened to him.

      As for the time frame, I was thinking around 400 BC. but I am flexible on that.

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    9. dpg Singularity
      2015-03-01T07:32:09+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 7:32 am

      I suggest that knowing he was kidnapped by pirates supplies 1] a more substantive inciting incident than “goes missing”; 2] a more specific objective goal; and 3] telegraphs the promise of more serious jeopardy and high adventure: she must not merely find him, she must rescue him from slavery (the usual fate of human booty in the pirate economy.)

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    10. dpg Singularity
      2015-03-01T07:32:09+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 7:32 am

      I suggest that knowing he was kidnapped by pirates supplies 1] a more substantive inciting incident than “goes missing”; 2] a more specific objective goal; and 3] telegraphs the promise of more serious jeopardy and high adventure: she must not merely find him, she must rescue him from slavery (the usual fate of human booty in the pirate economy.)

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    11. dpg Singularity
      2015-03-01T08:06:28+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 8:06 am

      Also for your consideration, I suggest a variation that intensifies the motivation for the quest. What if it’s her beloved (older) brother? The back story is he was forced into indentured servitude by the father who needed the money, couldn’t afford to feed an extra mouth. Now there are reports the ship he was on was attacked by pirates.

      Now her father bitterly regrets what he did but is to infirm/timid (whatever) to try to rescue him. So she does, to save her brother and right the wrong done to him.

      And an additional risk to her is that if she’s unmasked by antagonists, she will be sold into slavery, too. Young women, particularly virgins, were even more profitable prime ‘meat’ for the slave trade. And that is a plot reversal could set up an entire season of harrowing adventure: what she must do when she is outed and sold into slavery herself?

      [It seems to me to be too easy for her to be outed by friendly folks who then become allies in the quest. Rather, the stakes and risks — hence suspense — must continually escalate. She should succeed the old fashioned way — earn it every step, every episode by her own wits and courage.]

      fwiw

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    12. dpg Singularity
      2015-03-01T08:06:28+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 8:06 am

      Also for your consideration, I suggest a variation that intensifies the motivation for the quest. What if it’s her beloved (older) brother? The back story is he was forced into indentured servitude by the father who needed the money, couldn’t afford to feed an extra mouth. Now there are reports the ship he was on was attacked by pirates.

      Now her father bitterly regrets what he did but is to infirm/timid (whatever) to try to rescue him. So she does, to save her brother and right the wrong done to him.

      And an additional risk to her is that if she’s unmasked by antagonists, she will be sold into slavery, too. Young women, particularly virgins, were even more profitable prime ‘meat’ for the slave trade. And that is a plot reversal could set up an entire season of harrowing adventure: what she must do when she is outed and sold into slavery herself?

      [It seems to me to be too easy for her to be outed by friendly folks who then become allies in the quest. Rather, the stakes and risks — hence suspense — must continually escalate. She should succeed the old fashioned way — earn it every step, every episode by her own wits and courage.]

      fwiw

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    13. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2015-03-01T11:13:30+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 11:13 am

      Good points raised above.

      I think that in the face of recent TV shows that deal with similar subject matter in period and cultural. The stakes need to be even hire and the obstacles greater than what is described above.

      What if her father was the head of a kingdom (emperor, king, governor, or some other high up politician) her father was ousted by a rival and her family banished. Her father was said to be killed but actually sold to pirates and sent away and she was the only one to have escaped capture. Now it is up to her and her alone to restore her father’s power and save the land from the evil rivals.

      Other wise I think it would be better to give her a ticking time bomb and raise the tension that way.

      After her father was taken by pirates a headstrong girl must assume a male identity aboard a Phoenician trading galley in order to reach her father in time and rescue him from being sold as a participant in a death match.

      As mentioned it could be her brother instead and in that case she could be defying her father’s instructions when she goes after the brother to add to her burden. Perhaps there is a plot twist by which she learns that the father sold the brother.

      Lots of room for play in this idea well done.

      Hope this helps.

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    14. Neer Shelter Singularity
      2015-03-01T11:13:30+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 11:13 am

      Good points raised above.

      I think that in the face of recent TV shows that deal with similar subject matter in period and cultural. The stakes need to be even hire and the obstacles greater than what is described above.

      What if her father was the head of a kingdom (emperor, king, governor, or some other high up politician) her father was ousted by a rival and her family banished. Her father was said to be killed but actually sold to pirates and sent away and she was the only one to have escaped capture. Now it is up to her and her alone to restore her father’s power and save the land from the evil rivals.

      Other wise I think it would be better to give her a ticking time bomb and raise the tension that way.

      After her father was taken by pirates a headstrong girl must assume a male identity aboard a Phoenician trading galley in order to reach her father in time and rescue him from being sold as a participant in a death match.

      As mentioned it could be her brother instead and in that case she could be defying her father’s instructions when she goes after the brother to add to her burden. Perhaps there is a plot twist by which she learns that the father sold the brother.

      Lots of room for play in this idea well done.

      Hope this helps.

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    15. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2015-03-01T13:18:12+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      The pirate idea has all of the above. However, if someone goes missing, most people take the “They’ll turn up approach”. This lack of concern by others may force her to take action by herself. If pirates take someone, it may be conceived as a threat to the greater community, prompting action – end of story.

      There has been heaps of “Saving Dad” stories, Pirates of the Caribbean III, Mullan, Even one of the Indiana Jones flicks had a let’s rescue Dad element. The things I find a little misaligned. Is head strong and her actions. Her actions sound more desperate than head strong. I have a head strong daughter (19) she is more likely to carry out overt actions than covert actions. Perhaps my personal experience differs from others,

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    16. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2015-03-01T13:18:12+10:00Added an answer on March 1, 2015 at 1:18 pm

      The pirate idea has all of the above. However, if someone goes missing, most people take the “They’ll turn up approach”. This lack of concern by others may force her to take action by herself. If pirates take someone, it may be conceived as a threat to the greater community, prompting action – end of story.

      There has been heaps of “Saving Dad” stories, Pirates of the Caribbean III, Mullan, Even one of the Indiana Jones flicks had a let’s rescue Dad element. The things I find a little misaligned. Is head strong and her actions. Her actions sound more desperate than head strong. I have a head strong daughter (19) she is more likely to carry out overt actions than covert actions. Perhaps my personal experience differs from others,

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