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  1. Posted: August 22, 2014In: Public

    Blue collar forty something finds time in his harried day to be a loving husband, caring father, dependable son, mob enforcer, and a violent sadistic killer all while masking his true identity.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on August 23, 2014 at 11:29 am

    >> the mob and CIA been in cahoots for years and this is lightly based off a true story It's not exactly a state secret that the CIA has worked with the mob on international hit jobs -- like attempting to assassinate Castro. But conspiring with the mob on domestic hit jobs is a whole other ball gameRead more

    >> the mob and CIA been in cahoots for years and this is lightly based off a true story

    It’s not exactly a state secret that the CIA has worked with the mob on international hit jobs — like attempting to assassinate Castro. But conspiring with the mob on domestic hit jobs is a whole other ball game. I’m not saying the CIA has never played that game. Who knows? They operate in the shadows and along the borders of legality.

    But I seriously doubt if it constitutes standard operating procedure. And I have no doubt that such cases would be blatantly illegal — in egregious and intentional violation of federal statutes. And there is no way the CIA could cover its rear end politically before the U.S. Congress and the legally in the federal courts if the cover was blown (as they can and do on international jobs).

    And if that’s the covert and illegal game your protagonist is playing — you gotta hook. Well, one that hooks my interest, a story line more interesting than the ol’ yada-yada about double agents and dual lives. Not only because he would be operating outside the bounds of the law, but because of the additional jeopardy and stakes such illegal activity entails: if he’s caught, if his cover is blown, the agency won’t come to his rescue, won’t bring him in from the cold. He will be abandoned to twist slowly, slowly in the wind (to mix/mangle metaphors) or he would be “allowed” to be terminated with extreme prejudice.

    “The problem with living outside the law is that you no longer have its protection.”
    — Truman Capote

    And if that’s the hook, best wishes with your project.

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  2. Posted: August 22, 2014In: Public

    Blue collar forty something finds time in his harried day to be a loving husband, caring father, dependable son, mob enforcer, and a violent sadistic killer all while masking his true identity.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on August 23, 2014 at 6:08 am

    Protagonists who are double-agents, who live dual lives is a rather tried and true trope. So is the dichotomy of the brass knucles thug at work, the soft-touch paterfamilias at home, particularly since "The Godfather" series that redefined -- and re-invigorated -- the gangster genre. My point is thaRead more

    Protagonists who are double-agents, who live dual lives is a rather tried and true trope. So is the dichotomy of the brass knucles thug at work, the soft-touch paterfamilias at home, particularly since “The Godfather” series that redefined — and re-invigorated — the gangster genre.

    My point is that even if I buy all the premises of the concept (and I share the concerns raised by Richiev, Nir Shelter and Valentin) I don’t see a novel and compelling hook. Something fresh and original, that’s never been tried before.

    And now that it’s been explained the logline is for a series not a feature, I don’t get the sense that the concept has legs. By legs, I mean that a concept that has the strength (in complications and characters) for a dramatic marathon not a dramatic sprint; it can hold a viewing audience’s interest not just one time for 2 hours, but for an hour week after week after weeks for years.

    Maybe it has legs, but I just don’t see them at the moment.

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  3. Posted: August 22, 2014In: Public

    Blue collar forty something finds time in his harried day to be a loving husband, caring father, dependable son, mob enforcer, and a violent sadistic killer all while masking his true identity.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on August 23, 2014 at 6:08 am

    Protagonists who are double-agents, who live dual lives is a rather tried and true trope. So is the dichotomy of the brass knucles thug at work, the soft-touch paterfamilias at home, particularly since "The Godfather" series that redefined -- and re-invigorated -- the gangster genre. My point is thaRead more

    Protagonists who are double-agents, who live dual lives is a rather tried and true trope. So is the dichotomy of the brass knucles thug at work, the soft-touch paterfamilias at home, particularly since “The Godfather” series that redefined — and re-invigorated — the gangster genre.

    My point is that even if I buy all the premises of the concept (and I share the concerns raised by Richiev, Nir Shelter and Valentin) I don’t see a novel and compelling hook. Something fresh and original, that’s never been tried before.

    And now that it’s been explained the logline is for a series not a feature, I don’t get the sense that the concept has legs. By legs, I mean that a concept that has the strength (in complications and characters) for a dramatic marathon not a dramatic sprint; it can hold a viewing audience’s interest not just one time for 2 hours, but for an hour week after week after weeks for years.

    Maybe it has legs, but I just don’t see them at the moment.

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