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  1. Posted: April 28, 2018In: Horror

    “Five adults must face their past sins when they are forced to deal with the vengeful spirit of a recently deceased woman whom they falsely accused of abuse when she babysat them seventeen years ago.?

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on April 29, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    Five adults is too many main characters, even for an ensemble, in a? logline for a spec script.? ? Better to narrow it down to 3 max.? Better yet, narrow it down to 1, formulate the logline with one designated protagonist,the alpha character who? influenced the others -- as supporting characters --Read more

    Five adults is too many main characters, even for an ensemble, in a? logline for a spec script.? ? Better to narrow it down to 3 max.? Better yet, narrow it down to 1, formulate the logline with one designated protagonist,the alpha character who? influenced the others — as supporting characters — to? participate in the false charge.

    >>>why should we pull for the lead character to succeed

    In a horror flick do we always have to be pulling for the lead character, the protagonist.? Horror stories often entail the notion of dramatic retribution, unpoetic justice –? what the protagonist has coming to him because of his character flaw, because of his dramatic sins.? Can we be pulling for him to get the justice he richly deserves — but has been able to avoid?? IOW:? horror as a tragedy.

    fwiw

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  2. Posted: April 29, 2018In: Romance

    When the office nice guy?s ?work wife? starts sending him mixed signals about her relationship and impending move with her long-distance boyfriend, he risks his career and friendship by confessing his true feelings for her before he loses her forever.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on April 29, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    The logline assigns the greater risk to the guy, who? dares to confess how he feels about her. But it assigns the greater dilemma to the girl, who seems to be conflicted about which guy she likes more.? I am more attracted to her dramatic dilemma than his dramatic risk.? Because his blurting out howRead more

    The logline assigns the greater risk to the guy, who? dares to confess how he feels about her. But it assigns the greater dilemma to the girl, who seems to be conflicted about which guy she likes more.? I am more attracted to her dramatic dilemma than his dramatic risk.? Because his blurting out how he feels, is one moment, one scene that lasts a minute or two.? Whereas her dilemma is an ongoing problem she must wrestle with for multiple moments, for many scenes — for the duration of the story.

    And consequently,the girl is the one who determines how the story ends — not the guy.? Because she is the one who has to make the Act 3 dramatic decision that determines the denouement of the story.? From the moment he confesses, his fate is in her hands, in her mind.? But the protagonist should be the one who makes his fate.

    Ergo, it seems to me she is more qualified to play the role of the protagonist than the guy.

    Further, per the comment, he doesn’t confess it until about the midpoint in the story.? Which is awfully late for his action to constitute to the decisive act that drives the plot.

    In talking about the protagonist, I like to use the metaphor of? driving a car.? The protagonist is the character who is in the driver’s seat with his hands on the wheel, his foot on the gas pedal.? He is the who? turns the ignition key, puts the car in gear, presses on the gas pedal? and starts driving in a specific direction — toward his objective goal.? ? That action needs to take place at the end of Act 1.

    But, per your comment, at the end of Act 1,? the protagonist seems to? turn the ignition key — and then lets the engine of the story idle .? The car just sits there for the space of 30 pages? while he hems and haws.? Finally, at the midpoint, he engages the clutch, presses the gas pedal and confesses how he feels.?

    All this time he’s sitting there in the driveway, letting the engine idle, what is happening, what is driving the plot forward to engage and sustain audience interest?

    >>between weighing out the implications (both career and relationship-wise) of coming clean,

    Blake Snyder of “Save the Cat” fame called that the “Debate and Decision” phase of the plot — and it should occur in Act 1 culminating in a decision that drives the rest of the plot.? ?Having it occur in the middle of Act 2 is too late.

    Now then, that is not to say that the confession could not occur until the midpoint.? It might work , work very well,? as a pivotal complication to a plot already in progress.? What I am saying is that the logline (and perhaps the script) needs to be framed in terms of? an action that occurs at the end of Act 1 that puts the plot in gear and? gets the protagonist proactively driving toward a specific objective goal.

    fwiw

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  3. Posted: April 28, 2018In: Horror

    ?Massachusetts, 1692: The leader of a coven must convince a Puritan minister to work with her to find and stop a powerful and cunning excommunicated sorceress whom she suspects is secretly behind the Salem Witch Trials.?

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on April 29, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    Dho1115:Well.? Based on your comments, there are a number of issues I think you need to sort out.? First,? I suggest you have to decide who your protagonist is, the leader of the coven, or the refugee from the Puritan community?? If it's the latter, then the logline needs to re-framed around her.NowRead more

    Dho1115:

    Well.? Based on your comments, there are a number of issues I think you need to sort out.? First,? I suggest you have to decide who your protagonist is, the leader of the coven, or the refugee from the Puritan community?? If it’s the latter, then the logline needs to re-framed around her.

    Now? then, about your original logline which tags the leader as the protagonist.? What is her objective goal?? Taking it at face value, the logline? says that her objective goal is to persuade the minister to work with her.? Is that what the entire 2nd Act is taken up with — her arguing, pleading with, cajoling the minister into cooperating?

    Or is her objective goal to find and decommission the sorceress?? And getting the minister to cooperate as an ally is a means to that end?

    I assume her objective goal is to find and decommission the sorceress.? Therefore, the logline should cut out the middle man , the minister, and? cut to the chase, focus on the sorceress.

    fwiw

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