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Adam Griem
Posted: February 23, 20152015-02-23T15:19:45+10:00 2015-02-23T15:19:45+10:00In: Public

A drug addicted rich kid breaks into an unsuspecting college students parents home who is home from college due to a just diagnoses of severe diabetic. The situation takes a turn for the worse as a hot shot negotiator tries to prove himself rather than save the girl, who falls into diabetic shock slowly as the hostage taker battles withdraw symptoms. The ending of this terrible situation is tragic and carries swift punishment, no one will ever be the same.

Never The Same

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    1. Richiev Singularity
      2015-02-23T15:32:08+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 3:32 pm

      Who is the lead character?

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    2. Richiev Singularity
      2015-02-23T15:32:08+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 3:32 pm

      Who is the lead character?

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    3. Adam Griem
      2015-02-23T15:40:26+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 3:40 pm

      Um… Drug addicted rich kid. Girl is more symbolic, hence death in end. How to make protagonist more clear…ideas?

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    4. Adam Griem
      2015-02-23T15:40:26+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 3:40 pm

      Um… Drug addicted rich kid. Girl is more symbolic, hence death in end. How to make protagonist more clear…ideas?

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    5. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2015-02-23T19:13:53+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 7:13 pm

      A rich kid drug addict triggers a siege when he takes a hostage during a break and enter. The diabetic hostage’s health quickly deteriorates as the a self serving negotiator and the addict suffering withdrawal argue it out.

      Not great but a start. Focus on the goals of the story. What does everyone want. There is usually one path through a story, that’s your logline.

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    6. CraigDGriffiths Uberwriter
      2015-02-23T19:13:53+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 7:13 pm

      A rich kid drug addict triggers a siege when he takes a hostage during a break and enter. The diabetic hostage’s health quickly deteriorates as the a self serving negotiator and the addict suffering withdrawal argue it out.

      Not great but a start. Focus on the goals of the story. What does everyone want. There is usually one path through a story, that’s your logline.

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    7. Lucius Paisley Logliner
      2015-02-23T20:20:32+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 8:20 pm

      So… how many loglines do you have there?

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    8. Lucius Paisley Logliner
      2015-02-23T20:20:32+10:00Added an answer on February 23, 2015 at 8:20 pm

      So… how many loglines do you have there?

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    9. Adam Griem
      2015-02-24T01:42:02+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 1:42 am

      Thanks for the feedback so far. I’m rewriting as we speak.

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    10. Adam Griem
      2015-02-24T01:42:02+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 1:42 am

      Thanks for the feedback so far. I’m rewriting as we speak.

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    11. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-02-24T08:08:26+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 8:08 am

      Don’t be to sarcastic Lucius, but yes, all I see now is a synopsis. Kill ALL your darlings and get to the bone of your story by writing a kickass logline!!! You will be surprised that killing your darlings does not mean killing your logline/story. Less is more! Und so weiter!

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    12. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-02-24T08:08:26+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 8:08 am

      Don’t be to sarcastic Lucius, but yes, all I see now is a synopsis. Kill ALL your darlings and get to the bone of your story by writing a kickass logline!!! You will be surprised that killing your darlings does not mean killing your logline/story. Less is more! Und so weiter!

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    13. livejosh1nine Penpusher
      2015-02-24T08:38:01+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 8:38 am

      It’s way too long. I know that right off the bat. Go back to your core ideas and streamline everything. Tell the smallest possible version of your story in a sentence.

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    14. livejosh1nine Penpusher
      2015-02-24T08:38:01+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 8:38 am

      It’s way too long. I know that right off the bat. Go back to your core ideas and streamline everything. Tell the smallest possible version of your story in a sentence.

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    15. dpg Singularity
      2015-02-24T13:23:24+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 1:23 pm

      As far as I can figure out, the crux of the situation seems to be that the hostage taker is suffering drug withdrawal symptoms at the same time as his hostage victim is going into diabetic shock.

      But I can’t figure out who the protagonist is.

      And the logline sort of gives away the ending “the ending of this terrible situation is tragic”, something a logline should never do.

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    16. dpg Singularity
      2015-02-24T13:23:24+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 1:23 pm

      As far as I can figure out, the crux of the situation seems to be that the hostage taker is suffering drug withdrawal symptoms at the same time as his hostage victim is going into diabetic shock.

      But I can’t figure out who the protagonist is.

      And the logline sort of gives away the ending “the ending of this terrible situation is tragic”, something a logline should never do.

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    17. Adam Griem
      2015-02-24T16:02:27+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      Thanks for all the answers! Here is my revision:

      A misguided thief finds himself in a hostage situation with a suicidal drug addict who rather see them both die than get out alive.

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    18. Adam Griem
      2015-02-24T16:02:27+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      Thanks for all the answers! Here is my revision:

      A misguided thief finds himself in a hostage situation with a suicidal drug addict who rather see them both die than get out alive.

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    19. dpg Singularity
      2015-02-24T23:53:11+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 11:53 pm

      Who is the protagonist, the thief or the addict? Whoever it is should lead off the logline and the action should be described in the active voice, with stronger verbs than “finds himself”.

      Also, the revision sets up a situation for a plot, but it doesn’t describe a plot. The plot is what happens after the inciting incident that sets up the situation.

      And what is the inciting incident? How did these two get thrown together?

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    20. dpg Singularity
      2015-02-24T23:53:11+10:00Added an answer on February 24, 2015 at 11:53 pm

      Who is the protagonist, the thief or the addict? Whoever it is should lead off the logline and the action should be described in the active voice, with stronger verbs than “finds himself”.

      Also, the revision sets up a situation for a plot, but it doesn’t describe a plot. The plot is what happens after the inciting incident that sets up the situation.

      And what is the inciting incident? How did these two get thrown together?

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    21. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-02-25T00:09:35+10:00Added an answer on February 25, 2015 at 12:09 am

      The story is much, much shorter but completelyy confusing now.
      I would use Graigs version of your logline as a guideline for further revisions:

      “A rich kid drug addict triggers a siege when he takes a hostage during a break and enter. The diabetic hostage?s health quickly deteriorates as the a self serving negotiator and the addict suffering withdrawal argue it out.”

      Although even in this version I’m not sure who is the protag and who is the entag?

      And where is the irony in the story?

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    22. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-02-25T00:09:35+10:00Added an answer on February 25, 2015 at 12:09 am

      The story is much, much shorter but completelyy confusing now.
      I would use Graigs version of your logline as a guideline for further revisions:

      “A rich kid drug addict triggers a siege when he takes a hostage during a break and enter. The diabetic hostage?s health quickly deteriorates as the a self serving negotiator and the addict suffering withdrawal argue it out.”

      Although even in this version I’m not sure who is the protag and who is the entag?

      And where is the irony in the story?

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    23. Adam Griem
      2015-02-25T02:40:44+10:00Added an answer on February 25, 2015 at 2:40 am

      I tried to put irony in the second draft by having the hostage not care about his life… Originally I wanted the hostage taker to be the protagonist and the negotiator be the antagonist, then I decided maybe the hostage themselves should be the protagonist. I’m trying to catch that feeling of a situation spiraling out of control

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    24. Adam Griem
      2015-02-25T02:40:44+10:00Added an answer on February 25, 2015 at 2:40 am

      I tried to put irony in the second draft by having the hostage not care about his life… Originally I wanted the hostage taker to be the protagonist and the negotiator be the antagonist, then I decided maybe the hostage themselves should be the protagonist. I’m trying to catch that feeling of a situation spiraling out of control

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    25. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-02-25T03:42:24+10:00Added an answer on February 25, 2015 at 3:42 am

      Yes, sometimes it takes time to get the right feeling. I dig.

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    26. Rutger Oosterhoff Logliner
      2015-02-25T03:42:24+10:00Added an answer on February 25, 2015 at 3:42 am

      Yes, sometimes it takes time to get the right feeling. I dig.

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