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Timothy1
Posted: December 18, 20132013-12-18T13:36:50+10:00 2013-12-18T13:36:50+10:00In: Public

An ex-marine turned assassin, reconsiders his occupation when he finds out he has a sister: A detective that's hot on his trail.

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    1. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-18T14:03:37+10:00Added an answer on December 18, 2013 at 2:03 pm

      Is it a two-way dilemma? That is, does the detective concurrently discover she is pursuing her brother?

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    2. Richiev Singularity
      2013-12-18T16:16:37+10:00Added an answer on December 18, 2013 at 4:16 pm

      What if he is assigned to kill her. She was the lead on a bust the client was involved in.

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    3. 2013-12-19T01:15:40+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 1:15 am

      Ye she discovers this later on as the story goes on.

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    4. 2013-12-19T01:17:23+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 1:17 am

      That also happens in the script. Thats the exciting part of the plot for me.

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    5. dpg Singularity
      2013-12-19T04:46:07+10:00Added an answer on December 19, 2013 at 4:46 am

      The logline sets up a premise with some interesting dilemmas for both the pursuer and the pursued. But I have been “reconsidering” the phrase “reconsiders his occupation” ever since I first read the logline. Which means I have been doing nothing.

      My point is: “reconsider” seems rather vague and indeterminate. And “reconsiders” is a thinking process, but loglines are not about thinking; they are about doing. So what I’m looking for in this logline is what the protagonist does after he discovers the detective is his sister. What becomes his specific objective goal as a result of the discovery?

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    6. 2013-12-20T04:55:10+10:00Added an answer on December 20, 2013 at 4:55 am

      dpg Thanks alot for this advice. I appreciate it. I did’nt think of that.

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    7. 10PTT-COM Penpusher
      2014-01-02T02:10:16+10:00Added an answer on January 2, 2014 at 2:10 am

      Yours: “An ex-marine turned assassin reconsiders his occupation when he finds out he has a sister: A detective that’s hot on his trail.”

      – Which comes first: discovery he has a sister or learning there’s a cop hot on his trail?

      – dpg pointed out the problem with your LL. “What’s this movie about?” “It’s about an assassin reconsidering his occupation.” “Thank you. NEXT!” 🙂

      – We don’t need the info about him being an ex-marine. It doesn’t matter — not as is. The story through-line is him learning he’s got a cop hot on his heels, the kicker being she’s his sister.

      How about:

      “An assassin goes to war with the detective hot on his trail, then discovers she’s his long-lost sister.”

      Let’s rerun the “What’s this movie about?” test: “It’s about an assassin who goes to war with the detective hot on his trail.” “Okay, tell me more…”

      – So, this raises many questions about why the family bond matters and what happens AFTER the familial discovery. That seems to be the real story here. The familial reveal feels to me like an Act One turning point, because it’s the thing that generates the most conflict, the hardest decisions. The revised LL as it stands can’t describe a full story arc, because if the reveal comes at the end then we’ve just vented any intrigue our LL had. Using the elements you provided I can picture a story shaping up like this:

      “An assassin finds out the detective hot on his trail is his long-lost sister. To avoid a lethal showdown they agree to work together to hunt down his ex-marines cop-killing boss.”

      Boom: trigger, protag, antag, situation, motivations, stakes, probably a ticking clock or two. All from turning “reconsiders his occupation” into a clear, tense goal.

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