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isabelle.allen
Posted: June 26, 20132013-06-26T14:43:42+10:00 2013-06-26T14:43:42+10:00In: Public

Determined and short of money, a young boy aims to swim and fly to his dream paradise on the wildest island of Tasmania.

Tas Mania

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    1. Richiev Singularity
      2013-06-26T16:44:41+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 4:44 pm

      The first one was too much, this one isn’t quite enough.

      What’s missing is why he needs to do this. What event causes him to make the journey.

      Hope that helped, good luck with this!

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    2. isabelle.allen
      2013-06-26T17:56:49+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 5:56 pm

      Did my previous logline answer this specific question? Not sure if I need to adjust the story or the logline…

      Currently what event causes him to make the journey is he doesn’t have enough money. There’s no reason why he needs to go to Tasmania specifically, other than that he has an obsession with Tasmania. Is it therefore an unfinished story?

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    3. isabelle.allen
      2013-06-26T18:57:06+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 6:57 pm

      Short of money, a young boy will try anything with attempts to swim and fly, determined to reach the wildest paradise on the island of Tasmania.

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    4. 2013-06-26T21:25:12+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      Just curious – why Tasmania? Presumably this is designed to be an Australian film…where does he commence his journey? That to me would help me understand the extent he’s willing to go. If northern Queensland and thumbing it it’d be a marathon. If going from Melbourne, not so much

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    5. dpg Singularity
      2013-06-26T22:05:49+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 10:05 pm

      “Short of money” explains HOW he decides to get to Tasmania, but it doesn’t explain WHY he wants to go.

      >>There?s no reason why he needs to go to Tasmania

      Then what reason do I have as a viewer to care if he goes, care if he succeeds?

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    6. isabelle.allen
      2013-06-26T22:18:11+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 10:18 pm

      Thank you. That makes sense.

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    7. dpg Singularity
      2013-06-26T23:07:37+10:00Added an answer on June 26, 2013 at 11:07 pm

      Also, the audience needs to believe that the boy believes he MUST get there, no matter what.

      His motivation doesn’t have to particularly rational or realistic — we don’t expect that of a young boy. No one that age really comprehends how hard and dangerous the journey is going to be. So when the going gets tough, tougher than he ever imagined, he’s got to have a compelling reason to keep pushing on instead of coming to his senses and turning back.

      I think you have the seed of an idea for a compelling character embarking on a great quest. I hope you will continue to nurture and grow the idea.

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    8. wilsondownunder Penpusher
      2013-06-27T20:49:11+10:00Added an answer on June 27, 2013 at 8:49 pm

      Hi – I assume this will be an Australian film. It’d be worth understanding the distance he’s willing to go – e.g. QLD to Tasmania – epic. Melbourne to Tasmania – not so much. Even if you just said “A young boy thumbs it across Australia to the Island of Tasmania in order to…”…I go blank here – why would anyone want to go to Tasmania??? No but really, a young boy willing to cross Australia no matter what could make for a good film – especially if you consider how many people with dark pasts are hiding in the outback.

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    9. isabelle.allen
      2013-06-27T21:37:58+10:00Added an answer on June 27, 2013 at 9:37 pm

      I see what you mean. Thank you for your comment. It has made me think. I wonder though it may be a different film & is not essential to my intention, which is to advertise Tasmania. The Spirit of Tasmania is a fairly central theme- his flying attempt aims to land him on the Spirit. He will also attempt lassoing the Spirit of Tasmania from the wharf. This therefore does insinuate he’s from Melbourne.

      On a global level, where the Spirit of Tasmania may not be known, I think viewers will place the boy wherever they imagine the Spirit would leave from- potentially anywhere in the world. I don’t know if this is a far stretch…

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    10. dpg Singularity
      2013-06-27T22:44:18+10:00Added an answer on June 27, 2013 at 10:44 pm

      Good point. Distance to be traveled as a measure of the boy’s passion and commitment.

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    11. isabelle.allen
      2013-06-28T10:01:15+10:00Added an answer on June 28, 2013 at 10:01 am

      dpg- sorry can you clarify- which comment are you referring to? Thanks

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    12. dpg Singularity
      2013-06-28T12:08:50+10:00Added an answer on June 28, 2013 at 12:08 pm

      My earlier post was in response to wilsondownunder’s suggestion. I agree with the principle of character motivaton embedded in his suggestion. Which would seem to contradict my earlier statement, so I will attempt to clarify my reasoning.

      I said earlier: “His motivation doesn?t have to particularly rational or realistic”. But it has to be credible, something an audience would believe a boy his age could believe in. You don’t specify the boy’s age, so I assume he’s still young enough to believe in Santa Claus. We, the audience, would have no problem buying his delusion because we all know it’s one parents perpetrate on their kids.

      Global warming is a whole other issue, a whole other category. And here’s the major concern I have about using global warming: it’s a negative. The boy is motivated by fear of what global warming will do to Tasmania.

      Now, it’s okay for the protagonist to be initially motivated by a negative — fear, hatred, greed, etc. — but even when it’s necessary it is neversufficient. Assuming a happy ending, the protagonist must also have a motivation that is positive.

      Which is why I also concur with wilsonunder’s suggestion in the other thread. The boy should want to go to Tasmania for some positive reason, for some constructive objective end.

      What is your story about? A boy going on a journey.

      In my mind, that invokes the standard issue, archetypal theme of The Quest. (He is too young to cast his trip in that way, you, as the writer, aren’t)

      It may be a comedy replete with misadventures, but it seems to me the boy is not just going to Tasmania, he’s going on a personal odyssey. It will change his life.

      fwiw

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    13. scripping
      2013-07-02T23:17:19+10:00Added an answer on July 2, 2013 at 11:17 pm

      This is interesting and of a good hook, it is an adventurous film.

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    14. isabelle.allen
      2013-07-03T11:26:38+10:00Added an answer on July 3, 2013 at 11:26 am

      Why is almost every comment here marked with negative points? I am quite confused why nobody seems to agree with anything above?

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    15. Karel Segers Logliner
      2013-07-03T11:37:43+10:00Added an answer on July 3, 2013 at 11:37 am

      Not sure, Isabelle. It looks like the trolls have moved in again.
      It’s a pain in the neck to switch this off but worth it to shut up the retards.

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    16. Andrew Bates Logliner
      2013-07-03T12:20:33+10:00Added an answer on July 3, 2013 at 12:20 pm

      unfortunately it’s easier to press a button for a negative than actually give a healthy criticism/feedback.

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