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StarogiPenpusher
Posted: November 1, 20122012-11-01T12:40:53+10:00 2012-11-01T12:40:53+10:00In: Public

Embarking on a mission to save his people from a terrible famin a young tribe leader must defeat his demons, both real and imagined, in order to restore peace and destroy a new dictatorship created by his once trusted second in command during his absence.

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    1. Karel Segers Logliner
      2012-11-09T11:57:15+10:00Added an answer on November 9, 2012 at 11:57 am

      I sense real potential in this story. The former ally turning against the hero is a powerful premise. Also there are several major obstacles to overcome: famine and a villain. The famine is the backdrop, much like the war in a war movie. The real drama is between the characters. However by putting the famine upfront in the logline, you’re weakening its dramatic power.

      So an issue is the order in which you reveal the story information. The story really starts when the dictatorship is installed, which is only mentioned towards the end of the logline. I like when events in a story are revealed more or less (chrono)logically in the logline. That way it makes sense while we’re reading it and we don’t have to re-read too often.

      “a young tribe leader must defeat his demons, both real and imagined” is the heart of this story and logline. Two problems here: 1) the ‘imagined demons’ refer to the character fears/flaw/weakness. In that sense, the statement is generic because pretty much every hero in every great story has to defeat their inner demons. 2) the real demons are at first not specified, then later in the logline you clarify it is in fact his second in command.

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    2. Starogi Penpusher
      2012-11-09T11:36:00+10:00Added an answer on November 9, 2012 at 11:36 am

      Thank you for the feed back.

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    3. 2012-11-02T19:17:30+10:00Added an answer on November 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm

      Firstly, this is temporally confused. How can a dictatorship be formed in his absence when the young tribe leader is now “embarking” on his mission? No matter, easily fixed if the logline simply jumped to him returning after a long quest (which is a far more interesting set up). Secondly, while there is a long mythic tradition of this sort of scenario (including “The Lion King”), there is nothing in this logline to suggest there is anything unique or special about this particular tellIng of this tale motif. If this tribe is just another bunch of spear-throwers, then so what? Where’s the interest to be elicited from the reader?

      At a minimum, the logline should paint something interestingly different about this tribe. Like, for instance, that they actually had high technology not long ago (say, a couple of generations back). Or even that they have consciously shunned technology for some philosophical or religious reason and are not at all “primitive” in their understanding of their world (for example, they may still have scientific understanding).

      Steven Fernandez (Judge)

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    4. Starogi Penpusher
      2012-11-02T12:56:47+10:00Added an answer on November 2, 2012 at 12:56 pm

      It’s actually a colony on another planet

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    5. Richiev Singularity
      2012-11-01T15:47:46+10:00Added an answer on November 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm

      You say tribe, does that mean, Native American, African, or perhaps Pigmy?

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    6. Nicholas Andrew Halls Samurai
      2012-09-17T13:41:40+10:00Added an answer on September 17, 2012 at 1:41 pm

      Definitely more streamlined.
      Defeating inner demons is too vague, I think, for the logline. Whilst it may be true in the script, what is his outward goal?

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    7. Starogi Penpusher
      2012-09-17T13:09:49+10:00Added an answer on September 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      ” Embarking on a mission to save his tribe from a terrible famin a naive tribe leader must defeat his demons, both real and imagined, in order to restore peace and prosperity to his people….”

      This a bit more challenging than i thought it’d be but thanks for the advice : )

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    8. Nicholas Andrew Halls Samurai
      2012-09-17T12:50:27+10:00Added an answer on September 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      I think the problem here is that the goal is very unclear, and as a result one can’t picture the film clearly in their head when they hear the logline.

      For instance – the goal at first appears to be to end the famine that is hurting his people. But then the goal seems like it’s going to be surviving an exterior threat to his people. Then it appears it’s going to be about toppling a dictator who is also an ex-friend. I’m not suggesting that all of those things don’t happen in your movie, but for the purposes of the logline, I think it’s important to slice it down to the CORE story – who is the protagonist, what is the goal, what is the conflict or opposing force to achieving that goal, and what is at stake.

      Also, because words are valuable in a logline, you’re better off not describing your character as “a young tribal leader”. Young doesn’t give us anything. Is he a “naive” tribal leader? Inexperienced? Ambitious?

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