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  1. Posted: December 3, 2013In: Public

    When a priest is faced with the choice to either save his nieces life or uphold the laws of his religion the devil himself appears to tell him that everything he thought he knew about god and the devil was a lie to begin with.

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    Added an answer on December 5, 2013 at 1:43 am

    >>Pondering over the obvious paradox Akin to the famous Cretan paradox of Epimenides. But a story has to build from the starting point of the audience's common perception or viewpoint. In this case, the conventional roles of God and Satan, good and evil in Catholic theology. While we're wading intoRead more

    >>Pondering over the obvious paradox

    Akin to the famous Cretan paradox of Epimenides. But a story has to build from the starting point of the audience’s common perception or viewpoint. In this case, the conventional roles of God and Satan, good and evil in Catholic theology.

    While we’re wading into theology this logline reminds me of the story of Job where the devil gets personally involved in the life of Job. But he gets involved to win a wager over an important spiritual issue: that Job obeys God only because it’s a good deal for him to do so– he’s richly blessed. Take away all the he has, Satan argues, and he will curse you. So God allows Satan to take all he has including his family.

    What’s your theme? What spiritual issue are you trying to explore in your story? What itch are you trying to scratch in pitting the devil against the priest like this?

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  2. Posted: December 3, 2013In: Public

    When a priest is faced with the choice to either save his nieces life or uphold the laws of his religion the devil himself appears to tell him that everything he thought he knew about god and the devil was a lie to begin with.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on December 4, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Let me see if I can unpack this. There is a protagonist-- the priest. There is a stake character -- his niece. There is an antagonist -- the devil. There seems to a genuine dilemma --the priest can either obey the teachings of the church or save his niece's life, but not both. So far so good. But...Read more

    Let me see if I can unpack this.

    There is a protagonist– the priest.
    There is a stake character — his niece.
    There is an antagonist — the devil.
    There seems to a genuine dilemma –the priest can either obey the teachings of the church or save his niece’s life, but not both.

    So far so good.

    But… why of all the people, of all the priests in the world, is the devil taking time out of his busy schedule to jive-talk this priest? In other words, what’s the causal connection? What is there about the priest’s dilemma that triggers the devil to get involved? What’s the point of his personal intervention?

    And then there’s the issue of credibility. Why would the priest believe anything the devil says when the Bible says the devil is the father of lies in John 8:44, a scripture the priest is likely to be quite aware of. So he would seem to be inoculated from believing anything the devil says.

    Unless.. and I don’t know what that ‘unless’ could be.

    fwiw.

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  3. Posted: December 2, 2013In: Public

    When a many-times-jilted long-distance truckie falls in love online with a city writer, he must learn to trust again, to win her heart.

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    Added an answer on December 2, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    RE: "Trusting" versus "not trusting". That seems like an internal subjective need --it pertains to the character flaw -- which is fine. But is the objective goal to "trust his heart" or to get the girl? And in addition to internal issues the guy has with his heart, what external obstacle and/or romaRead more

    RE: “Trusting” versus “not trusting”. That seems like an internal subjective need –it pertains to the character flaw — which is fine. But is the objective goal to “trust his heart” or to get the girl?

    And in addition to internal issues the guy has with his heart, what external obstacle and/or romantic competition stands in the way of relationship with the writer?

    Consider these loglines for 2 movies about romance and human relationships:

    YOUNG ADULT
    A newly divorced writer returns to her small home-town to rekindle a romance with her ex-boyfriend, who is now happily married and has a newborn daughter.

    SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD
    It?s love at first sight when a 23-year-old musician glimpses a girl at a party, but before he can win her affection, he has to fight off her seven violently possessive former lovers.

    The protagonists have issues of the heart to sort out, but for the purpose of the logline, the story is cast in terms of clearly visible obstacles, including romantic competition, that stand between the protagonist and the relationship they want.

    What external obstacles, what romantic competition, stand between the truck driver and the relationship he wants with the writer?

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