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  1. Posted: June 3, 2013In: Public

    Clashing husband-and-wife inventors of a new process to design life-saving drugs need to settle their differences in time to fight off a global corporation using espionage tactics to bury an invention that will save millions of lives.

    Tony Edward Samurai
    Added an answer on June 5, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    ... I knew she must have had one (a flaw)-- off the top of my head I couldn't recall it as it's been so long since I've seen it... that will soon be amended though ;)... And best of luck getting your foot in the door dpg... I get the feeling you deserve it.

    … I knew she must have had one (a flaw)– off the top of my head I couldn’t recall it as it’s been so long since I’ve seen it… that will soon be amended though ;)…

    And best of luck getting your foot in the door dpg… I get the feeling you deserve it.

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  2. Posted: June 3, 2013In: Public

    Clashing husband-and-wife inventors of a new process to design life-saving drugs need to settle their differences in time to fight off a global corporation using espionage tactics to bury an invention that will save millions of lives.

    Tony Edward Samurai
    Added an answer on June 5, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    clocking this into the 'most popular' and just cos I gots itchy fingers: "I.E. The Birds?: - no hero ............................... Melanie is the protagonist - no flaw ............................... Maybe a fair call - certainly not a prerequisite to a good story. - no stake .....................Read more

    clocking this into the ‘most popular’ and just cos I gots itchy fingers:

    “I.E. The Birds?:
    – no hero …………………………. Melanie is the protagonist
    – no flaw …………………………. Maybe a fair call – certainly not a prerequisite to a good story.
    – no stake ……………………….. Huh? non violent birds suddenly start unilaterally attacking people! People are dying.
    – no conflict……………………… They have to not only escape ‘the birds’ but convince people that it’s actually happening… and the mother of the protagonist’s love interest is blaming HER for it all!
    – no antagonist…………………..Um… The Birds???
    – no story ?”……………………. I’d have to strongly disagree that what takes place in ‘The Birds’ could not be construed as a story — it has a beginning (we meet the protagonist, her potential love interest and is attacked by a gull) — A middle — The gull attack is not a one off event, turns out ALL the birds have turned murderously psychotic… They have to protect themselves and the townspeople (some who don’t believe it…) — An End, whilst ambiguous, is an ending, as the two lovers get out of their house which has been under attack, and slowly drive out of town, surrounded by birds who DON’T attack them… and we also learn that the National Guard is getting involved as it’s not just occurring in this town but everywhere… A Story — IMO, anyway…

    I agree that rules are meant to be broken, and to do so you first must understand the rule and know how to apply it — to quote Nadia Boulanger (who taught composers such as Philip Glass and Quincy Jones) “To study music we must learn the rules. To create music, we must forget them.” — I think the same could be said of film… and in the context of the world of ‘logline it!’ we’re all students…

    Good Luck with your film kbfilmworks!

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  3. Posted: June 3, 2013

    Thwarted at every attempt to win over the girl of his dreams, an awkward boy (8) has to overcome his deepest fear to draw her into a magical world.

    Tony Edward Samurai
    Added an answer on June 5, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    hmmm -- I don't think I could tag the logline as chauvinist and sexist based upon what is premised as it's too vague and isn't believable... to paraphrase Jessica Rabbit "It's just the way it's drawn..." Vagueness = "Thwarted at every attempt" -- By whom/ Why? = "Overcome his deepest fears" -- WhatRead more

    hmmm — I don’t think I could tag the logline as chauvinist and sexist based upon what is premised as it’s too vague and isn’t believable… to paraphrase Jessica Rabbit “It’s just the way it’s drawn…”

    Vagueness = “Thwarted at every attempt” — By whom/ Why?
    = “Overcome his deepest fears” — What are his deepest fears and how do they relate to his object of desire?
    = “Magical world” — is this metaphorical or literal? Because there is no clue to this in the set-up it seems to come from nowhere and doesn’t seem to relate to the story premised in any way. In fact — his desire reads in the end as wanting to ‘…draw her into his magical world’ — and metaphorical or literal, causes a contradiction in relation to the object of desire — does he want to ‘win’ her (btw, what does ‘win’ actually mean here?… this might be leading dpg’s thoughts on potential chauvinism?) or, does he want to ‘draw her into his magical world’? I don’t think you can get away with proposing both — just IMO.

    Believability = An eight year old boy on a mission to win the girl of his dreams — I think eight is too young for a boy to have a mission in pursuing a romantic relationship with a girl, in a film anyway — while some eight year olds might have crushes and the like they aren’t sexually mature yet… and at the risk of generalizing (and possibly sounding sexist) are more interested in pursuits like sport, having fun with their friends, comics/ TV/ video games and the like (or — sending botanical aliens back to their home planet, capturing burglars that break into their house at xmas when left behind by their family, tackling the most powerful and evil Wizard the non-muggle world has ever seen etc etc etc…) . They might just have the buds of curiosity — but they are still hanging onto (if barely) the idea of ‘girl germs’ etc… (and dpg — I’d say GIRLS still hang onto this same idea of BOY germs at eight as well…;) )

    — as a point of reference — look at ‘Moonrise Kingdom’ — the ‘young lovers’ in this are 12. IMO this is an amazing movie, yet also your perception of what Wes Anderson gets away with at times is stretched. Why? Because the lovers are so young… at twelve… not eight.

    Anyway — good luck and happy writings!

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