A 19-year-old must bomb an LGBT community centre to re-enter her familial cult and free the secretly gay younger sister she failed to escape with one year earlier.

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Title: God Hates Fags

(One of Westboro Baptist Church?s web addresses)

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thedarkhorse · Mentor · 3,495 pts

Hmm - reading your ideas...

My only one myself - and feel free to reject this and spit on it...

I'd introduce the LGBT community centre as a mixed bag. But they're mostly good. Angelic.

And the protagonist, we meet trying to figure out a way to get her sister back. And she's desperate and dirty and flawed. (Admittedly, my big worry with this is if anyone would follow a character who is desperately trying to bomb a LGBT centre which is why you'd probably have to explain straight away and make sure there's a huge dose of empathy.)

Hmm - you could even start it off with her moments away from planting a bomb and we go back in time to explain why...

Anyways, by the midpoint, we learn why protagonist desperately wants to get sister back, and we learn she was also there (I can't help but feel this discovery should come later on). It feels like a twist.

By MP, we should learn there's some bad apples in the LBGT cult. Like DPG said in his post. Make sure they can put up an argument for why they're doing what they're doing.

You'd have some real conflict - if they actually had solid reasons for keeping the sister there.

Perhaps the older sister has history of violence? Or escaped a mental institute or something. (These are pretty awful ideas, but, whatever gets the ball rolling.)

I'm gonna quote Aaron Sorkin about that conflict thing...

"Conflict isn't just knuckle-boxing. Conflict can be a war of IDEAS. And you want the competing ideas to be equally strong."

I got that quote from here...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Screenwriting/comments/4zpcz2/i_took_aaron_sorkins_masterclass_heres_my_cliffs/

Former member · Singularity · 114,965 pts

Trix:

The 1st Amendment to the US Constitution ("Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...') has been interpreted by the courts to grant individuals wide latitude in how they practice their religion. ? Including how parents impose their religious beliefs on their children.? For example, the cult I belonged to did not believe in vaccinations, did not believe in modern medicine. Period.

I myself find the invisible bondage of emotion and dogma more dramatically interesting to explore than any story with the visible bondage of chains or concrete or barbed wire.? But, imho, that is difficult for people immersed in the lifestyle and values of mainstream culture (as opposed to those of marginal cults) to apprehend, let alone convincingly dramatize.

I am reminded of a recent interview I read of Aaron Sorkin in which he describes how he writes anti-heroes: "You have to write the characters as if they're making their case to God for why they should be allowed into heaven.? When you're successful, you get people in the audience saying, 'Huh, he's got a point' to stuff that makes them uncomfortable."

If you can write all the cult characters like that -- give them sincere, credible motivations and arguments for why they think they're right, why you and the audience ought to at least consider that they just might have a point (no matter how discomfiting and onerous you find their values and praxis), then by all means.? But if you can't, if you can only see them as deluded, mean-spirited, ignorant bigots and fanatics -- well, it's your story.

Your idea certainly topical and I believe there is a story to be told.? But...

My 2.5 cents worth.

dogger · Singularity · 87,055 pts

Trix:

The 1st Amendment to the US Constitution ("Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...') has been interpreted by the courts to grant individuals wide latitude in how they practice their religion. ? Including how parents impose their religious beliefs on their children.? For example, the cult I belonged to did not believe in vaccinations, did not believe in modern medicine. Period.

I myself find the invisible bondage of emotion and dogma more dramatically interesting to explore than any story with the visible bondage of chains or concrete or barbed wire.? But, imho, that is difficult for people immersed in the lifestyle and values of mainstream culture (as opposed to those of marginal cults) to apprehend, let alone convincingly dramatize.

I am reminded of a recent interview I read of Aaron Sorkin in which he describes how he writes anti-heroes: "You have to write the characters as if they're making their case to God for why they should be allowed into heaven.? When you're successful, you get people in the audience saying, 'Huh, he's got a point' to stuff that makes them uncomfortable."

If you can write all the cult characters like that -- give them sincere, credible motivations and arguments for why they think they're right, why you and the audience ought to at least consider that they just might have a point (no matter how discomfiting and onerous you find their values and praxis), then by all means.? But if you can't, if you can only see them as deluded, mean-spirited, ignorant bigots and fanatics -- well, it's your story.

Your idea certainly topical and I believe there is a story to be told.? But...

My 2.5 cents worth.