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  1. Posted: February 27, 2017In: Comedy

    After he magically starts visualizing the desires of any female he touches, a girl-shy teen gets the chance to win his dream girl away from a Machiavellian bully.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on February 27, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    Most stories should have a point where they?must complete their goal, a goal set by a specific event in the story, the inciting incident. If they don't fulfill their goal there will be consequences. Now, obviously for a comedy or low-stakes drama it is kind of just like, 'so he doesn't get the girl,Read more

    Most stories should have a point where they?must complete their goal, a goal set by a specific event in the story, the inciting incident. If they don’t fulfill their goal there will be consequences.
    Now, obviously for a comedy or low-stakes drama it is kind of just like, ‘so he doesn’t get the girl, so what?’ But there’s always something that should drive them, make the stakes feel like the world to the character, and to the audience.
    And that is why I think the inciting incident you chosen doesn’t work for this story. Maybe in a slight variation, but in this, the only thing I think is, ‘so what? Why do I want to root for someone trying to ruin someone else’s happiness, even if they are a bully?’
    Acquiring magical powers is simply too broad, there are so many different things it could motivate someone to do. But an inciting incident should be specific, it should have a clear connection to the goal that is formed.
    Why?does Luke decide to fight against the Empire? Because after they killed his family, he has nothing left. Only the opportunity to do fulfill his dream of being more than just a farm boy.
    Why does Peter Parker decide to become Spider-man and fight crime? Because had he used his uncle’s teachings before, he would’ve stopped the man who killed him.
    Their powers are just the tools they use to achieve that goal. Now, maybe an example of the inciting incident being the bestowal of the powers might be if some evil scientist experimented on someone and now that person uses their power to get revenge. That creates a clear motivation.
    I simply don’t think the inciting incident works for the particular story you want to tell.
    Also, I think just ‘shy’ works. People know what shy means.
    I hope this helps.

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  2. Posted: February 22, 2017In: Comedy

    When a humiliated teen starts visualizing the true desires of any female he touches, he gets a chance to win the girl away from his Machiavellian rival.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on February 25, 2017 at 11:55 pm

    I haven't "What Women Want"(or even heard of it before this discussion, because I generally don't watch pure comedy movies.) So I cannot speak about that. I can, however say that even if the acquiring of the power in that movie is the inciting incident, it doesn't mean the same goes for Lars's storyRead more

    I haven’t “What Women Want”(or even heard of it before this discussion, because I generally don’t watch pure comedy movies.) So I cannot speak about that. I can, however say that even if the acquiring of the power in that movie is the inciting incident, it doesn’t mean the same goes for Lars’s story no matter how similar they may be. I also agree with Nir Shelter that you shouldn’t get too hung up on following every beat in some dude’s outline.
    I still think that the humiliation is the inciting incident, based on what I’ve seen.

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  3. Posted: February 22, 2017In: Comedy

    When a humiliated teen starts visualizing the true desires of any female he touches, he gets a chance to win the girl away from his Machiavellian rival.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on February 25, 2017 at 8:25 am

    I think that the inciting incident is always what makes the character set the goal. In Star Wars it's when Luke's family is killed, in Spider-man it's Uncle Ben's death, not when he's bitten by a radioactive spider, or when Luke discovers he can move stuff with his mind. Of course there are cases whRead more

    I think that the inciting incident is always what makes the character set the goal. In Star Wars it’s when Luke’s family is killed, in Spider-man it’s Uncle Ben’s death, not when he’s bitten by a radioactive spider, or when Luke discovers he can move stuff with his mind. Of course there are cases where the inciting incident is the acquiring of the magic. I can’t think of a good example at the moment.
    Different terminology aside, it doesn’t appear that the acquisition of the powers is what make the protagonist set his goal. So on that point I agree with Lars.
    However, I do agree with DPG that the humiliation doesn’t seem like something big enough, something to change the status quo.
    I hope this helps.

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