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  1. Posted: April 6, 2018In: Action

    When a man?s new world crashes down around him because his old world comes calling, he unleashes hell on everyone responsible ? starting at the bottom and working his way up.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on April 6, 2018 at 11:34 pm

    Agree with the others.? The story is generic, vague.? It needs to be filled out with specific details that distinguish it from all the other films about a man ruthlessly seeking revenge.

    Agree with the others.? The story is generic, vague.? It needs to be filled out with specific details that distinguish it from all the other films about a man ruthlessly seeking revenge.

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  2. Posted: April 5, 2018In: Examples

    The true story of how a motley crew pulled off England’s biggest bank heist only to discover they were set up by MI5 to retrieve scandalous photos of a royal person.

    dpg Singularity
    Added an answer on April 6, 2018 at 11:18 pm

    Foxtrot25:>>proceed that a log should suggest to a star talent what the story would mean for them if they were to sign up.That is the usual rule, the best way to proceed.? But, as you know,? I also think rules are tools, not immutable laws chiseled in stone.? There can be exceptions.And I alsoRead more

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    >>proceed that a log should suggest to a star talent what the story would mean for them if they were to sign up.

    That is the usual rule, the best way to proceed.? But, as you know,? I also think rules are tools, not immutable laws chiseled in stone.? There can be exceptions.

    And I also think that the most important element for a winning logline is a strong story hook.? I dare to venture it is the must-have, indispensable element for scripts by new writers with no representation, no industry contacts, no previous credits.? It’s such a ferociously competitive market, that having a well-constructed, industry standard logline? with all the required elements ( inciting incident+protagonist+objective goal+antagonist)? while necessary is not sufficient.? A spec script by an unrepresented writer trying to break into the Biz needs a strong story hook.

    And I think this story has a strong hook.? True story… England’s biggest bank heist… scandalous photos of Princess Margaret.

    BUT:

    It also true that in Show Biz getting the script filmed often requires attaching major talent to the project, talent that? wants to play the role of the protagonist.? Having a major talent attached to a project is a magnet that draws other talent — and? more importantly, the $$,$$$,$$$ to film it.

    Bottom line:? I agree with you that the wiser course would be to include the role of the protagonist.?

    And I also think the midpoint discovery/reversal should be and can be included.

    Should be because it’s a good story hook.

    Can be because the audience is in on the setup from the git-go; it’ s well established in the first Act.? The thieves don’t discover it until the midpoint, after they have robbed the bank.? ?So the midpoint discovery/reversal is not a spoiler — it’s a selling point.

    So:

    The true story of how a small time criminal led a motley crew to pull off England?s biggest bank heist only to discover they were set up by MI5 to retrieve scandalous photos of Princess Margaret.
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    Note😕 “small time criminal” instead of? “shady used car dealer”? because, upon another viewing, I realized that is a more accurate description.? The story opens with him selling used cars because he’s trying to go legit . But it’s not working out. He’s deep in debt to a loan shark.? And then an ex-girlfriend shows up to offer him the score of a lifetime that will solve all? his money woes.

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  3. Posted: April 6, 2018In: Thriller

    Revision: When a timid, undocumented student gets abducted, she must find the courage to escape a bleak island with four other strangers who aren’t all who they seem.

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    Added an answer on April 6, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    Candersomn:First of all, I think the struggles of undocumented students in the USA (aka: DACA), heck, the struggle of undocumented immigrants period, is a fecund? source of? drama.But I just don't see how her predicament is a dramatic correlation to her? legal status.? Or to flip it around, I don't?Read more

    Candersomn:

    First of all, I think the struggles of undocumented students in the USA (aka: DACA), heck, the struggle of undocumented immigrants period, is a fecund? source of? drama.

    But I just don’t see how her predicament is a dramatic correlation to her? legal status.? Or to flip it around, I don’t? see how her legal status is? a causal factor in her abduction.? Women are abducted all the time (alas) for reasons that have nothing to do with their legal status.? ?Why was she abducted because she was undocumented?? To what purpose?? What is the objective goal of the antagonists, her abductors?? What do they intend to do with her?? And are the 4 strangers also undocumented?

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