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  1. Posted: December 9, 2019In: Horror

    When a demonic book is brought into a college couple home, the couple must find the source of there internal struggles before they become its next victim.

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    Mike Pedley Singularity
    Added an answer on December 10, 2019 at 12:51 am

    Welcome to logline.it and congrats on writing your first logline. The first thing to know is that writing a logline is hard but everyone here is here to help (even if it seems that the feedback is overly negative). Some of the comments you will receive will be about the logline, some will be about tRead more

    Welcome to logline.it and congrats on writing your first logline. The first thing to know is that writing a logline is hard but everyone here is here to help (even if it seems that the feedback is overly negative). Some of the comments you will receive will be about the logline, some will be about the story. The logline is a summary of the story after all.

    So… on to the logline.

    Your logline has all the components required, an inciting incident, a protagonist (or two), a goal and the stakes. However, there are a lot of questions and issues with the story that this logline conveys.

    Inciting incident – Where did this demonic book come from? A couple wouldn’t knowingly bring a demonic book into their home so maybe consider unpacking this slightly so we understand it was either accidental or the book has the ability to mind control or move itself. I would argue the inciting incident isn’t the moment the book arrives at the house, but the moment they realise the book’s intention for evil. Up until that point the book is simply a book. As in Evil Dead, it’s the contents of the book that pose that the threat. So tell us, specifically, what the book does.

    Typo – college couple’s home. While picking up on errors may seem petty, sometimes they can change the meaning or be read different ways so it’s worth double checking.

    Protagonist – As a general rule, it’s better to focus on a single protagonist. Doesn’t have to be at all but usually, even in ensemble films, one character is considered the lead – Danny Ocean in Ocean’s 11, Gordy in Stand By Me, Mikey in The Goonies, etc. This also allows you to tell us who this character is. How would you define the character in 2 or 3 words? This often includes a characteristic that goes some way to suggesting the character’s arc through the film. Or perhaps it’s simply their defining trait and how they will deal with the obstacles thrown in their way. Ultimately, I would say pick one of the couple and tell the reader who they are.

    Typo – “there” should be “their”

    Goal – “find the source of their internal struggles” – the BIG problem with this is that they are internal. To find an internal issue with oneself, you must look within. So that leads us to a film where the character sits and looks within for the duration. Film is a visual medium so think visually! What will it look like on screen? Most films have an external goal and through the course of seeking this, internally they change and grow too. I would consider thinking of something that they need to do in order to beat the book and stay alive that can be visually interesting on screen.

    ‘Internal struggle’ is incredibly vague too. Ambiguity is where loglines go to die. You want to be as specific as you can so the version of the film the reader sees in their head is as close to what’s in yours as possible.

    Stakes – I think we need to understand this book a little more in order to understand why it’s claiming people’s lives. As I mentioned previously, it’s the contents of the book that are usually the dangerous things, not the book itself. So tell us what this book is or what it wants.

    I think if you address the issues and provide us with a hook, something unique and sets this story apart from others like it, it will make for a stronger logline.

    Random questions. Is the script already written?

    Don’t get disheartened by any feedback you receive. I’m sure we all remember posting our first logline and it takes a bit of time to get used to the process. Once you become more familiar with it all though, you’ll start to see how incredibly beneficial the skills of writing a good logline are. Not just in logline creation, but writing in general. It forces you to think really carefully about every single word you write. It’s important to read the feedback and keep trying to apply it with each new draft. Oh… and I don’t think any of us are experts, we’re all just aspiring writers, so you’re allowed to disagree or ignore the comments you receive. Ultimately, write the story you want to write. It’s yours after all.

    Hope this all helps.

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  2. Posted: December 8, 2019In: Comedy

    When his former ?friends? from his shameful prison past visit him and don?t leave, a family man sets about getting them all back into the dating game – which threatens his own marriage in the process.

    Mike Pedley Singularity
    Added an answer on December 9, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    I like this idea. I think you have a good collection of characters although, for an Alexander Payne style of thing, I'm not sure I would bother with the sheriff. This is just my personal preference. It's a bit cliche in this kinda thing and makes it feel a little cartoony or too comedic. This shouldRead more

    I like this idea.

    I think you have a good collection of characters although, for an Alexander Payne style of thing, I’m not sure I would bother with the sheriff. This is just my personal preference. It’s a bit cliche in this kinda thing and makes it feel a little cartoony or too comedic. This should be about them all looking forward without being able to look past their past. Maybe the only people who are actually really bothered about their criminal past are themselves and this is their internal journey?

    What I really wouldn’t want to see, is them turning back to crime at any point.

    What does the protagonist learn? What’s his arc? These three need to teach our protagonist (and potentially his wife too) something about love. I’m wondering if, thinking out loud, these three ex-cons all have different relationships that need fixing. Malkovich wants a girlfriend, Woods needs his relationship with his daughter fixing, and Liotta needs to reconcile with his wife? There’s a lot of life lessons there and, in my head, it’s more interesting that they’re all different aspects of love.

    The John Malkovich type – he’s brilliant with women… so what does our protagonist have to do?

    I wonder if the David Hyde Pierce character should actually be someone who our protagonist aspires to be rather than him wanting to be one of the guys. This gives our hero the “looking forward” perspective – the aspirational contrast to the blast from the past he gets from his prison buddies. As this is the B-Story for our protagonist, the Act II climax could be the discovery that his neighbour also has a hidden criminal past or something? Throwing stuff out there.

    Have you seen “Silver Linings Playbook”? I see this having some similarities with that film.

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  3. Posted: December 8, 2019In: Action

    When an overdosed addict falls into a coma, he must stop his past selves from using heroin to wake up before he dies.

    Mike Pedley Singularity
    Added an answer on December 9, 2019 at 8:28 pm

    Action? I feel this is more of a drama or thriller to be honest. It might be action, but it's not clear from this logline where the action is coming from. "Past selves" - plural? Surely, he just needs to stop one? He's "Back to the Future" style time-travelling within his own head, right? Or is it mRead more

    Action? I feel this is more of a drama or thriller to be honest. It might be action, but it’s not clear from this logline where the action is coming from.

    “Past selves” – plural? Surely, he just needs to stop one? He’s “Back to the Future” style time-travelling within his own head, right? Or is it more of a “if his current self can convince a past version of himself to quit he can wake up” kinda deal?

    I like this idea, for what it’s worth. I think there’s definitely something worth exploring here. I can see him meeting himself before he takes his very first hit and trying to talk him out of it to no avail. Then he jumps forward to a difficult time in his life when he turns to the drug in a big way. He becomes his own guardian angel in a way and in turn convinces his current self he doesn’t want to do it anymore. I’d love it if the final act was the realisation that the only one he needs to convince is the one that’s in the coma in the present. Nice “you can’t live in the past” message.

    I think it would be worth expanding on some of the elements in this logline so we understand what exactly is happening within this guy’s head. If you want to keep it as an action film too, maybe make it sound more like an action film.

    It’s a Wonderful Life meets Trainspotting…. interesting!

    Hope this helps.

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