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  1. Posted: July 8, 2016In: Thriller

    When a bitten-to-death passenger is found dead in his cabin, a dad with son-issues aspires to catch the killer and redeem himself to his son.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on July 9, 2016 at 12:43 am

    "But not both." Wouldn't that be the real challenge? To be able to do both? To somehow be able to get her spouse to remain with her,?and catch the killer? As you said in an earlier review about the son, her husband could see what she's doing and then that convinces him to stay with her. But then agaRead more

    “But not both.”
    Wouldn’t that be the real challenge? To be able to do both? To somehow be able to get her spouse to remain with her,?and catch the killer? As you said in an earlier review about the son, her husband could see what she’s doing and then that convinces him to stay with her.
    But then again, if she fails at one, then how she deals with that failure could be an opportunity for a sequel. Not to mention that the protagonist winning everything at the end always makes me feel cheated; the story basically went full circle rather than going straight and exploring and building upon the protagonist’s actions and the consequences they bring.

    ” it might be more interesting to explore with a female protagonist.”
    I do agree with this.

    “Men go for action; women for relationship.”
    I want to expand on my position a bit more. Yes, women go for action. They enjoy action, though they wish for more female action protagonists.
    Men are unlikely to go see relationship films, romance-y films. But that is a product of a “broad stroke” as you say. Men don’t go see these films because they view them as only for women. Society has implanted in them that if they watch those types of films it will somehow make them less masculine. So yes, men do go for action. It is a product of a societal expectation.
    On another note, I simply think that romance as a main plot is not effective enough. We need to see the trials the couple goes through, and what better way than to the make the romance a subplot and focus on the action, horror, fantasy, sci-fi, or thriller part which strengthens and builds that relationship?

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  2. Posted: July 8, 2016In: Thriller

    When a bitten-to-death passenger is found dead in his cabin, a dad with son-issues aspires to catch the killer and redeem himself to his son.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on July 8, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    "Men ?go for action; women for relationship." While it may be true that women are more likely to see romance type stories, this statement is too stereotypical. There are plenty of women who like action as well, and there are men who like relationship/romance. And, since women have made up the majoriRead more

    “Men ?go for action; women for relationship.”
    While it may be true that women are more likely to see romance type stories, this statement is too stereotypical. There are plenty of women who like action as well, and there are men who like relationship/romance. And, since women have made up the majority of the movie-going audience for multiple years, the action films depend on that demographic.
    On your last note, yes, women, especially POC women are??wanting to see themselves represented onscreen.
    Personally I would much rather see a platonic relationship between a man and a woman, a female buddy movie, or two LGBT?leads.
    And just to throw my perspective in: As a male I don’t mind romance, if it is organically introduced into the story and it gives me a reason to root for the relationship to succeed. ?(A good example is in the recent season of “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow” which featured one of the time-traveling women sparking up a relationship with a repressed lesbian in 1958. It was a rare romance that I enjoyed. Keeping in the DC universe, a bad example is Olicity. I didn’t mind it at first, but once it became a reason to turn the show into a soap opera I enjoyed it considerable less, as many other “Arrow” fans did. )

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  3. Posted: July 8, 2016In: Thriller

    When a bitten-to-death passenger is found dead in his cabin, a dad with son-issues aspires to catch the killer and redeem himself to his son.

    Dkpough1 Uberwriter
    Added an answer on July 8, 2016 at 10:18 am

    "The story does indeed have two protagonists." If this is the case, then you should frame the logline around them. What causes them to come together to solve the case? As I asked in the previous thread, is it a buddy film? If so, then highlight the differences between the characters which will proviRead more

    “The story does indeed have two protagonists.”
    If this is the case, then you should frame the logline around them. What causes them to come together to solve the case? As I asked in the previous thread, is it a buddy film? If so, then highlight the differences between the characters which will provide the?main relationship.

    “When a bitten-to-death passenger is found dead in his cabin, a dad with son-issues aspires to catch the killer and redeem himself to his son.”
    Better. As noted before “a dad with son issues” is vague. “Bitten-to-death” is awkward. To be honest, although in my example I named a specific cause of death, all you really need is “a body is found”. “Turns bloody” was simply too vague. It could anything from?someone getting cut to a bloody massacre.
    And finally “aspires to catch the killer” is not a visible action. What action does he do? Does he gather crime scene photos? Question witnesses?
    As dpg noted, “redeem himself to his son” needs to be reworded so that either that is his actual goal, to catch the killer in order to redeem himself, or the relationship with his son needs to be made into an obstacle.
    Example:?When a cruise passenger is found dead in his cabin, a detective investigates the case so he can redeem himself to his estranged son.?(~24 words)

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