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After being exiled from her clan, a nymph seeks out her absent father in a populated, modern city.
Hi Hannikkis... I gather that by nymph and modern city you're setting up a?mythological character in present times, however I'm not sure what abilities or qualities would make them out of place and give them a fish-out-of-water aspect. For example in Splash (remake announced by the way) the mythologRead more
Hi Hannikkis…
I gather that by nymph and modern city you’re setting up a?mythological character in present times, however I’m not sure what abilities or qualities would make them out of place and give them a fish-out-of-water aspect. For example in Splash (remake announced by the way) the mythological character was literally a fish out of water and her ability to communicate?with sea creatures , producer super sonic sounds and turn into a fish gave her unusual encounters. Nymphs were spirits of nature that contradicted the strict conventions of high society, however nowadays I dare say they?would come across as a typical teenagers. What if this was set during Victorian times, a nymph?would stick and surely produce a few awkward moments.
Also her being exiled doesn’t necessarily and directly connect to her needing to find her father. What if her mother dies and she must find her father to let him know, or something to that effect where by it motivates her to need to find the father or else.
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Actually had a chat with Karel over the weekend, looks like we are going to get a discussion board soon.True that in A New Hope Vader is an?agent of the emperor, he is motivated to stop the rebellion on orders of his master. However, it is not made clear whether or not he knows Luke is his son - heRead more
Actually had a chat with Karel over the weekend, looks like we are going to get a discussion board soon.
True that in A New Hope Vader is an?agent of the emperor, he is motivated to stop the rebellion on orders of his master. However, it is not made clear whether or not he knows Luke is his son – he didn’t even know that Leia was his daughter after being in the same room as her. Point is that we know beyond a doubt that Vader’s goal is to find the rebel base in the first film, and in the second it changes to turning Luke to the dark side.
As with all good antagonists,?his?motivation is made clear, whether it be achieving a strategically advantageous military objective or revenge he?is strongly motivated. More so, it could be said that after the commander of the Death Star humiliates Vader in front of the other officers, Vader wants to prove a point. Therefore compounding his motivation – he needs to defend his reputation and please his master.
The antagonist needs to be on screen actively (i.e taking action not just giving orders from afar) working against the protagonist, the emperor doesn’t do this, yet Vader does.?I’m not sure what a contagonist is, so I can’t answer that question but will say that Vader is the Antagonist in Star Wars; A New Hope or by hero’s journey terms – the Shadow.
As for Gods of Egypt, at this point I have to say that anything I write about this film is my opinion based on my personal tastes. Without delving into the breadth of my full opinion, I think that for the demographic which it was made for I’m sure many found it entertaining. For me however and according to my taste, it suffered from structural flaws as a result of the dual protagonist plot, shifts in points of view between scenes and several conceptual decisions relating to the use of the particular mythological characters in the story.
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All writers will?eventually develop their?own definitions and labels, most noticeable in writing teams by the way, and as?noted previously definitions are not 'hard and fast' they are malleable. However, if you do wish to work with other professionals - producers, executives or directors, you will?nRead more
All writers will?eventually develop their?own definitions and labels, most noticeable in writing teams by the way, and as?noted previously definitions are not ‘hard and fast’ they are malleable. However, if you do wish to work with other professionals – producers, executives or directors, you will?need to be able to make clear references and use the same terminology as they do. In this instance I believe that the?terminology proposed in the original post will conflict with that used by most other people, and what ever logic is?employed to explain it will not serve a purpose in the long run.
The character definitions that we’re discussing fall under the umbrella of archetypes in the hero’s journey. These are widely recognised and heavily documented conventions, and would benefit most writers as analysis tools, yet in the original post there is a blunt rejection of these conventions.?Therefore, aside from not being able to communicate clearly with other professionals, you miss out on the benefit of using a tested tool set.
Again, use what ever definition you want, but bear in mind that it may not necessarily work when used with other people.?As story telling in general and film making in particular are collaborative efforts, ask your self – is this serving a purpose?
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