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  1. Posted: September 18, 2012In: Public

    An emotionally stunted musician hits the road with an aspiring producer in order to track down the woman who has been the subject of all his work since she broke his heart in high school.

    Nicholas Andrew Halls Samurai
    Added an answer on September 19, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Hey guys - all extremely helpful and positive feedback. It's gotten me very excited about this project. Will submit a revised logline today, to see how we go.

    Hey guys – all extremely helpful and positive feedback. It’s gotten me very excited about this project. Will submit a revised logline today, to see how we go.

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  2. Posted: September 18, 2012In: Public

    An emotionally stunted musician hits the road with an aspiring producer in order to track down the woman who has been the subject of all his work since she broke his heart in high school.

    Nicholas Andrew Halls Samurai
    Added an answer on September 18, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Wow guys, such great suggestions! Conceptually, the film is about not being able to let go of things - how that can cripple you emotionally and creatively. Originally, the idea was that he was in a band that hadn't made it yet - that is, their chances of success were dwindling, the rest of the bandRead more

    Wow guys, such great suggestions!

    Conceptually, the film is about not being able to let go of things – how that can cripple you emotionally and creatively. Originally, the idea was that he was in a band that hadn’t made it yet – that is, their chances of success were dwindling, the rest of the band was leaving, and he was drowning writing songs about the same girl, the same incident, over and over … but …

    Richiev’sn suggestion to make him a faded star, someone who was once huge, with his glory days behind him and biggest hits were about her. It gives that character a much clearer reason to seek her out – I’m thinking to rekindle the romance and see what that inspires in him. (Originally, it was more at the urging of the producer / mentor character).

    Phil – thanks for the suggestion of a clearer antagonist. I can see what you’re saying – that the stakes need to be higher, and there needs to be a face put to the antagonistic forces in the film. Whilst I don’t want to insert a loan-shark sub plot (at this stage … i won’t rule it out entirely), I’ll have a nice long think about what the ‘ticking clock’ can be.

    Anyway, I’ll keep musing on this one. Again, thanks heaps.

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  3. Posted: September 17, 2012In: Public

    In a past life Raymond Red believed in reincarnation. But in the life he is living now, being reborn is not part of the program.

    Nicholas Andrew Halls Samurai
    Added an answer on September 18, 2012 at 11:47 am

    i guess it all depends on what the purpose of your logline is. most of what people here are testing out is the premise of their film, its ability to grab attention, and whether or not someone with money would be able to a) see the sellability of the product and b) understand how much the product isRead more

    i guess it all depends on what the purpose of your logline is.

    most of what people here are testing out is the premise of their film, its ability to grab attention, and whether or not someone with money would be able to a) see the sellability of the product and b) understand how much the product is likely to cost, from a simple couple of lines.

    what you’re talking about – content written in a TV or cable guide, or on the back of the DVD, from what I understand is usually written by the publication or marketing teams, and not the writer or filmmaker.

    the (former) logline is a useful tool to the writer, because it helps you identify weak areas in the very basic version of your movie. is the hook strong enough, is the idea compelling? it also means that you have figured out “this is what my movie is about”, which you can keep referring to when your script starts going off the rails or it gets confusing during the writing. it’s much easier to adjust two sentences to make them more engaging than it is to re-write 110+ pages, trying to make it the most engaging version of your story.

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